Started by Toyota Camry, May 07, 2019, 07:47:04 pm
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Quote from: Toyota Camry on May 07, 2019, 07:47:04 pmif this is an ongoing issue, it is likely that weekend services will soon be reduced
Quote from: Busnerd on May 08, 2019, 01:00:39 pmBased on what information? What Michael Hammond reported? I doubt they will completely change their weekend shifts and timetables based on this, regardless of how many services they run, weekend shifts are still voluntary, no matter if it's 1 or 100 shifts, sure it is one option, as is recruiting more weekend casual workers for example, it's more a case of wait and see.
Quote from: Snorzac on May 09, 2019, 11:10:27 amYou have to remember that due to national driving regulations a driver must have 4 (need to confirm that) in every 28 days off, and this 28 days is continuously rolling. So whilst it may have only been 18 short this weekend gone, next weekend because the drivers volunteering may not have had adequate days off you may end up 20 short or 25 short. So whilst 18 doesn't seem like a lot, the rolling 28 day rule will cause them further issues moving forward
Quote from: Snorzac on May 09, 2019, 11:10:27 amYou have to remember that due to national driving regulations a driver must have 4 (need to confirm that) in every 28 days off, and this 28 days is continuously rolling.
Quote from: Busfanatic101 on May 09, 2019, 12:02:26 pm.. I would imagine there would be part-timers and casuals doing well below the limits who could use the extra pay
Quote from: Toyota Camry on May 09, 2019, 10:15:19 amIt has been proposed by the Transport Workers Union, quoted in the Canberra Times, that weekend services should be reduced until they have sufficient staff
Quote from: Toyota Camry on May 09, 2019, 08:03:30 pmIt would result in far worse publicity for Transport Canberra if an event similar to the death of Daniel Morcombe occurred due to a bus service cancellation, as happened to Mr Morcombe due to a policy of the bus operator; the media publicity and coroners report would be scathing if it were found that the event could have been prevented by the release of information. For many customers, the cancellation of a weekend bus service could result in them arriving at work 1 hour late, missing a bus to Sydney or incurring significant financial expense due to missing a flight at Canberra Airport; this is why it is important that the public are notified so they can make alternative plans.
Quote from: Busfanatic101 on May 09, 2019, 10:58:50 pmAnd how do you propose they do this on a way that real-time tracking doesn't?Also note they wouldn't be an hour late because these shortages are cutting rapid frequency, not hourly routes.
Quote from: Toyota Camry on May 10, 2019, 08:53:09 amYou appear to be unaware that nxtbus and other tracking applications do not provide notification of cancelled services; they simply do not appear in the tracker after they are scheduled to have commenced, this makes it impossible to find out if a trip will operate or not prior to the scheduled departure time, by which it may be too late to organise an alternative journey.
Quote from: Toyota Camry on May 10, 2019, 08:53:09 amYou are also claiming there is an "iron clad" guaranree [sic] that only rapid services will be effected; whilst Transport Canberra have claimed that local routes will be prioritised, they have not made any guarantee they will not be effected.
Quote from: Toyota Camry on May 10, 2019, 08:53:09 amIt is also being forgotten by yourself that many customers use rapid services to connect with local routes; one missed rapid trip can mean an hour long wait for the next local service, it is not policy of Transport Canberra to hold connections due to rapid cancellations. It appears you suggest a minimum connection time of 20 minutes between R4 and other services, and 35 minutes between all other rapids and other services is nessecary; while this may be true on present weekends, many would consider it unacceptable.
Quote from: Busfanatic101 on May 10, 2019, 10:12:04 amOf course I know that. What I'm saying is that consequences of foreseen drivers shortages, unforeseen driver shortages, and other unforeseen factors that may result in cancellation have the same consequences.
Quote from: Busfanatic101 on May 10, 2019, 10:12:04 amOf course, TC never have and never will be able to notify unforeseen cancellations in advance. Why make such a big fuss of weekend cancellations due to driver shortages in the new weekend network compared with any other form of cancellation?
Quote from: Busfanatic101 on May 10, 2019, 10:12:04 amI'd rather they spent money on increasing frequency than spending that same money on reporting cancellations. Reporting cancellations may seem a small task, but every little thing seems to be a money drain.
Quote from: Toyota Camry on May 10, 2019, 03:44:46 pmmy privilege is acknowledged by myself
Quote from: Toyota Camry on May 10, 2019, 03:44:46 pmIt would cost little to nothing for Transport Canberra to report service cancellations; you are ignoring the societal impact of this notification not being provided. It seems that you would rather save the government $5 rather than prevent a disadvantaged woman from getting to work in time for her Sunday shift costing her $250 in lost wages due to missing the shift;
Quote from: Toyota Camry on May 10, 2019, 03:44:46 pmyou appear to believe that the rosters are not confirmed in advance, and that Transport Canberra drivers are simply asked to present themselves at depots on weekends to join a queue waiting the allocation of the next available shift.
Quote from: Northside on May 10, 2019, 10:41:35 pmThis sh*t is hilarious. Get that troll a spot in Jimmy Kimmel!
QuoteMore buses, more often, more lies!As an example of my I'm not using them much right now, I was hoping to get a bus home from my afternoon out on Saturday. After (another) 15 minute wait past the arrival time, I had another lengthy phone conversation with the lovely staff at Transport Canberra, only to be left with the news that there will be no buses coming for the next 3 hours.
QuoteWhy would it be, that even after 'checking'Ive been sitting out the front of the legislative assembly for almost AN HOUR past the the time i was told it was coming?These changes you've made don't seem to connect anything at all. Its -1 out here, and one of your most frequent buses (the R4) cant seem to even operate once an hour?
QuoteExactly. At my stop there were kids who had finished work waiting to get home- it was about 5 degrees and we waited 40 mins before we could get the information thankfully parents could pick them up . Another driver told me "more than likely cancelled get an uber" unacceptable.
QuoteI had buses that did not turn up on Saturday & Sunday nights due to cancelled services. On Sunday night the 53 north from Civic was completely scrubbed in the evening. #TransportCanberra this is not the way to run a city bus service! #WeNeedBetter! @alistair_coe
QuoteYes #TransportCanberra are trying to be too smart by half. Should be a website on cancelled services & there should be announcements at interchanges. Last night 3 services from 7pm in a row on 53 north cancelled from Civic interchange. No staff to tell people also.
QuoteNo bus after 6pm on Sunday night on Route 53. Yet timetable says a bus just after 7pm, 8pm and 9pm. People were waiting for buses. Your #Network19 and new weekend services are pathetic and a joke.
QuoteHad to walk 30min home tonight because neither of the two rapid routes which pass by my suburb were operating to the timetable. Frustrating as this isnt the first time core routes Ive used have been inexplicably dropped, but at least it was a pleasant night for a stroll.
QuoteJust been stranded. Waited for the 5:17pm 58 bus at Parliament House to go to City Bus Station (and then on to Nicholls via LR and another bus) and it never came. I tried to use Transit App to track the bus but apparently it's not real time tracking? Tried looking on TC web site but no info there. Next bus is due in an hour. Not waiting for that. Called my wife to get a lift home. Very unimpressed.
Quote from: Toyota Camry on July 26, 2019, 07:16:11 pmI suspect this may be the final weekend of the current weekend network. The weekend bus crisis is about to to reach breaking point
Quote from: Toyota Camry on July 26, 2019, 07:25:14 pmI am proposing these changes to weekend services as part of an emergency weekend network as a result of our present weekend bus crisis; I have listed my changes below.R2 - Evening short services between Fraser & City shortened to operate only between Fraser & Belconnen.R3 - Cancelled between Belconnen & City; operating only between Spence & Belconnen every 60 minutes, and between City & Airport every 30 minutes.R4 - All services to operate using steer tag or articulated vehicles.R5 - Cancelled between Woden & City West; passengers to use R4 or R6.R9 - Reduced frequency; to operate every 60 minutes between Dickson & Watson.R10 - Reduced frequency; to operate every 60 minutes.AMC - Cancelled; passengers to be issued Cabcharge vouchers.
Quote from: Barry Drive on July 28, 2019, 10:33:37 amI'd also suggest finishing earlier on both nights.
Quote from: Toyota Camry on August 17, 2019, 03:38:44 pmI am hoping that this will only impact south side services; with their focus on connecting with light rail, Gungahlin area services are both too high profile and heavily used for any reductions.
Quote from: Toyota Camry on August 17, 2019, 03:38:44 pmI am hoping that this will only impact south side services
Quote from: Bus 400 on August 17, 2019, 06:53:14 pmHopefully it's only the loops that are cut to every 2 hours, that way still providing an hourly service. Much how it was in the old network. Sent from my SM-T810 using Tapatalk
QuoteWhile Transport Canberra is still working on the weekend timetable adjustments, it is likely that local route buses will run less frequently, up to every 2 hours.
Quote from: Northside on September 21, 2019, 04:34:34 pmWere things really that bad that they had to halve the frequency of all non-rapid services?
Quote from: Busnerd on September 22, 2019, 10:05:49 amI highly doubt any local route will wait for a rapid connection
Quote from: triumph on October 30, 2019, 10:47:18 pmso no signifcant effect.
Quote from: triumph on October 30, 2019, 10:47:18 pmIt was claimed that weekend 'Rapid' services were unchanged. Sylvan has mentioned an R4 change; and I have recently noticed the R3s ex Spence have also been changed but to only slightly later (5 to 6 min), so no signifcant effect.
Quote from: Snorzac on September 21, 2019, 10:07:03 pmWhilst I dont agree with the cuts, just remember it is a temporary measure at this stage and I believe they plan on ramping it back up in the early new year as more new drivers come online.