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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #150 on: June 03, 2018, 05:38:11 PM »
I am wondering whether anyone knows what fleet numbers the names "Zoe" and "Delta" are allocated to?
There's no information on the fleetwiki with those names as far as I can see. However, I'm pretty sure "Delta" was in the range of 441445 and "Zoe" was 502 or 504.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #152 on: June 13, 2018, 08:54:31 PM »
Hmm, can't seem to find the other post I made about it, oh well.
Saw 920 and 921 coming back from Woden again today. Still don't know what they're doing, like last time, but they're always together when travelling to and from Woden.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #153 on: June 14, 2018, 12:04:41 AM »
Hmm, can't seem to find the other post I made about it, oh well.
Saw 920 and 921 coming back from Woden again today. Still don't know what they're doing, like last time, but they're always together when travelling to and from Woden.
Can't really claim 'always' from two sightings, and 921 was alone when I saw it southbound on Yamba near the hospital on the morning of the 7th.
Without the driver training sign on the back or the desto, it would probably have to be doing network timings.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #154 on: June 14, 2018, 01:01:53 AM »
Alright, well 'both' times they were together or near each other.
As for destos, both times just said out of service - Ooh, I'm getting all sentimental just thinking about it cause they still have flipdot displays :'(

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #155 on: June 14, 2018, 09:48:24 AM »
Also as it has not yet been mentioned, the red nose season is upon us and the STAGs again, 471 and 482 with red noses seen yesterday.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #156 on: June 14, 2018, 12:26:13 PM »
I saw quite a few with the noses yesterday too. There's one maybe two that don't have one atm, I think it was 467 or something.

Also @Busfinatic101, 621 was on the 65 south at 3:50pm again.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #157 on: June 18, 2018, 12:13:51 PM »
711 entered service this morning.

Yay!

I saw the photo of 652 at the city on the weekend, so that answers the other question. How about the others then, 653, 654 etc, are they out yet too?

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #158 on: July 04, 2018, 05:21:25 PM »
Followed 662 today as it was being delivered to Tuggeranong Depot on a trade plate, got some photo's but nothing special, plus it looks the same as all the other ones anyway.
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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #159 on: July 05, 2018, 10:38:50 AM »
654 is in service:

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #160 on: July 05, 2018, 06:53:39 PM »
656 is also in service:

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #161 on: July 05, 2018, 07:56:47 PM »
655 as well. (Reported by King of Buses.)

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #162 on: July 05, 2018, 09:28:24 PM »
What is the name of the application for tracking buses; I wish to install something similar on my iPhone.

I noted this afternoon, whilst walking from my office to the City Bus Station, that one of the Volgren Optimus buses was running on route 11; it arrived in Civic at 5pm.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #163 on: July 06, 2018, 07:19:42 PM »
Next There and also Triptastic should both track vehicles.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #164 on: July 07, 2018, 12:31:57 PM »
Next There and also Triptastic should both track vehicles.

Apart from the fact that one of Triptastic costs money to download, do you know what the differences are between the two apps?

On a side note, parts of the Canberra-region of Nextthere (realtime) aren't working. At the moment, the 200 and 300 aren't able to be tracked.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #165 on: July 07, 2018, 01:50:36 PM »

Been a while since these numbers were updated.

The current figures are: Average fleet age: 10.98 years; Belconnen 11.26, Tuggeranong 10.65 (Darts excluded)

Buses 25+ years = 66 (15%)

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #166 on: July 07, 2018, 04:40:40 PM »
Apart from the fact that one of Triptastic costs money to download, do you know what the differences are between the two apps?

On a side note, parts of the Canberra-region of Nextthere (realtime) aren't working. At the moment, the 200 and 300 aren't able to be tracked.

They both have slightly different applications. Next There is better for savings your common/nearby stops to get a list of what is coming. Triptastic works well as it can show the whole network in one go and will show all the buses running on the network (if you zoom out) you can save stops in this too but it doesn't work as well, it's probably a more gunzel friendly app where as next there is more of a convenient app for those who just use 2-4 regular bus stops and want to see the next departures quickly.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #167 on: August 12, 2018, 11:26:04 AM »
I have noticed some odd things happening this weekend.
There are ARTICs in service as well as PR2s but (anecdotally) very few normal-length Scania K320UBs, and there seems to be more Scania L94UBs in service today than last weekend.
There are also some Irisbuses in service today too.
I find it very odd that some of these bus types that haven't been used on weekends (e.g PR2s) for years are being used today.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #168 on: August 12, 2018, 04:13:58 PM »
The reason may be revealed later. Few (or no) Tuggeranong K320UBs, but some from Belconnen including 657 & 658.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #169 on: August 12, 2018, 04:54:56 PM »
I did notice artics on 300, and for the first time I know of on 966, but just assumed it was an isolated glitch. Interesting it was seen across the network.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #170 on: August 12, 2018, 10:09:21 PM »
Definitely something going on. Artic on 906 this morning, then cought 3 L94UBs in succession during today's journey. Saw a number of PR2s, with at least one on a rte 300. Irisbus 303 and 308 seen in City. Noted Bustech and Volgren rigids in use too. Buses were moving about in the Belconnen Depot. Buses ridden came from both depot allocations. All very unusual. Anyone spot a STAG or a PR3?

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #171 on: August 12, 2018, 10:11:10 PM »
Definitely something going on. Artic on 906 this morning, then cought 3 L94UBs in succession during today's journey. Saw a number of PR2s, with at least one on a rte 300. Irisbus 303 and 308 seen in City. Noted Bustech and Volgren rigids in use too. Buses were moving about in the Belconnen Depot. Buses ridden came from both depot allocations. All very unusual. Anyone spot a STAG or a PR3?
474 & 114 were both in service today.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #172 on: August 13, 2018, 10:17:14 AM »
Well I spoke to a driver yesterday and he said it was due to the refuellers not being available until today, but very interesting that the choices would be to go with Renaults though. They haven't been on weekends (excluding the Belco tour) for like 10 years now or something.
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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #173 on: August 13, 2018, 03:18:36 PM »
They haven't been on weekends (excluding the Belco tour) for like 10 years now or something.
Not quite 10 years. 2010/11 was around when Belconnen Depot would have had enough MAN and Irisbuses to run all low floors on weekends, excluding the occasional Renault artic for special events.

Can't remember which year it was, but there was at least one occasion when Renaults had to operate on a Sunday due to destination updates.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #174 on: August 13, 2018, 04:17:16 PM »
The use of non-disability compliant buses at the weekend would have made some customers very unhappy, particularly with services that run at hourly (or longer) intervals. That Transport Canberra gave little or no warning in their web site (was anything on Twitter, Facebook, etc?) implies that the cause was sudden and unexpected.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #175 on: August 14, 2018, 01:59:36 AM »
I don't remember which year it was either, but all I can remember of the last time I rode a weekend serviced Renault was with my mum on the way home on 962 doing a 962.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #176 on: August 18, 2018, 08:50:23 PM »
Well I spoke to a driver yesterday and he said it was due to the refuellers not being available until today, but very interesting that the choices would be to go with Renaults though.


Recently spoke with a driver who believed that the use of unusual buses last weekend was due to an 'industrial issue' resulting in refueller unavailability. Buses with fuel were used and as the weekend progressed, buses low on fuel needed to be replaced by buses with fuel. Apparently many of the Renaults had been refuelled earlier, so were an obvious resource.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #177 on: September 01, 2018, 05:34:19 PM »
Something new to look for. With the renewal of all bus registrations, they are no longer required to display stickers. So you should start to notice their absence on all ACTION buses.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #178 on: October 12, 2018, 11:52:31 PM »
Irisbus Agora Line 301 - 319, trivia.

The fire extinguishers have been moved from the partial recess in the wall in the middle of the front below the windscreen, to a position on the left side just behind the partition between the entry and the saloon.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #179 on: November 17, 2018, 07:31:35 AM »
Unsure where to post but I'm sure a certain someone will move it if he sees fit :P


Have noticed there appear to be some artics out today (Saturday) presumably due to three large events on today, Yes! Fest, Spilt Milk & the concert at the arboretum thisevening.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #180 on: November 17, 2018, 11:17:29 AM »
673 & 674 are both running route 200 today. I am unsure if these artics will appear on any suburban routes; they may be operating modified shifts confining them to routes 200, 300 & 938.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #181 on: November 17, 2018, 01:41:11 PM »
673 & 674 are both running route 200 today. I am unsure if these artics will appear on any suburban routes; they may be operating modified shifts confining them to routes 200, 300 & 938.

Saw 515 heading out on a 936 earlier via Transittimes, so I very much doubt they've modified shifts just to keep artics off suburban routes.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #182 on: November 18, 2018, 05:53:54 PM »
I saw another on a suburban run, forget which one, but would assume that some drivers who had a few 300's on their shifts were allocated artics. I posted a number of photos of artics out yesterday on the Bus Australia Facebook page.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #183 on: November 18, 2018, 08:38:08 PM »
I saw another on a suburban run, forget which one, but would assume that some drivers who had a few 300's on their shifts were allocated artics.

It is likely that ACTION has allocated artics to some 300 runs (but, of course, just as the Uni semester finishes). Have recently had regular trips City to Belconnen about 4pm Sunday (but not this or last Sunday). It is common for the bus to be overfull, even leaving passengers behind at Marcus Clark and Barry Drive stops. Drivers usually immediately report that on the 2 way radio. Perhaps this has given rise to the sensible allocation of artics.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #184 on: November 19, 2018, 05:48:58 PM »
I doubt it, no doubt they were only in use due to the three large events on over the weekend, I expect all services on weekends to continue to be rigids unless special events are on.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #185 on: November 29, 2018, 10:54:25 AM »
Today, the below trip is operating using bus 664, but is showing as non accessible on NXTBUS; normally, tris trip uses a Belconnen PR100.2.

This is confirmation that tracking equipment is being reused from old buses; it is no longer possible to accurately determin which bus is coming without seeing it yourself.

(14) 10:34 Fraser West Terminus to Emu Bank

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #186 on: November 29, 2018, 11:03:41 AM »
Today, the below trip is operating using bus 664, but is showing as non accessible on NXTBUS; normally, tris trip uses a Belconnen PR100.2.

This is confirmation that tracking equipment is being reused from old buses; it is no longer possible to accurately determin which bus is coming without seeing it yourself.

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Well tripmate correctly displays the bus as 664. It simply means the accessibility data wasn't corrected (or incorrectly selected) for the particular bus. Just like how many of the artics didn't reflect the bike racks for ages (at least some of which have been fixed)

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #187 on: November 29, 2018, 01:58:40 PM »
Can I assume that NXTBUS is using timetable data? or is it actually using the information coming from each vehicle. Each bus also has an individual ID number, so even if the equipment is re-used, it *should* be re-numbered before being installed.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #188 on: November 29, 2018, 02:32:10 PM »
Yeah. It's most likely a set-up error when 664 was being entered into the system. AFAIK the bus module only stores the vehicle number - the attributes will be stored on the NXTBUS database.

If you can obtain definitive proof (like a photo of the PID), report it to Transport Canberra.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #189 on: December 01, 2018, 07:44:03 PM »
Bus 507 has left the ACT as of yesterday; it is believed to be in the Sydney area.
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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #190 on: December 01, 2018, 10:02:12 PM »
While it sounds similar to what was set up in 710-712, Scania are working with Transport Canberra to make bus drivers drive more fuel efficiently. Sounds like it has worked so far & the scheme is set to expand.

https://www.busnews.com.au/industry-news/1811/transport-canberra-to-expand-bus-fuel-efficiency-strategy

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #191 on: December 04, 2018, 09:24:52 AM »
383 was travelling northbound down Northbourne Avenue today at about 07:40 today with something on the front desto (couldn't read it) and "TEST" on the back, driven by someone in a bright orange uniform (mechanic?).

Also heard an announcement on the driver's radio about 422 being broken down northbound on Yarra Glen this morning.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #192 on: December 04, 2018, 05:32:11 PM »
Bus 317 failed on Yarra Glen, Curtin this afternoon; there is currently a mechanics van and tow truck present. It is likely that it will be towed to Belconnen Depot later this evening.

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Re: General Fleet Discussion
« Reply #193 on: December 04, 2018, 11:11:53 PM »
477 was towed back to the depot, shortly after I passed 317 getting picked up, the tow truck was shortly after seen going to retrieve another bus.