Started by Barry Drive, October 19, 2011, 03:45:58 pm
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Quote from: ACTbusspotter on October 19, 2011, 03:45:58 pmNew route 55 to provide a loop service to Forde & Bonner.
Quote from: lukeo25 on October 19, 2011, 04:13:08 pmHere's hoping for a better weekend network
Quote from: Busnerd on October 20, 2011, 02:18:44 pmHowever so far this new WEEKDAY network looks good and all the changes seem fairly positive. Were any of those changes part of the work done by Chris and Martin and the rest of the ACT BUS Network?
Quote from: Bus 400 on October 20, 2011, 07:32:04 pmIt may of taken 6 years, but my suggestion of extending the 4 (then 35/36) to Woden has finally been put in (all going well).Wasn't Wiluna Street skipped when the 4 became the Route 80 & then reinstated a few years later? I am also trying to work out where the 1 & 7 will start there run from City West? Will it be from this new stop on Marcus Clarke Street? Or within City West?Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk
Quote from: Bus 400 on October 20, 2011, 07:32:04 pmIt may of taken 6 years, but my suggestion of extending the 4 (then 35/36) to Woden has finally been put in (all going well).
Quote from: Chris_Guru on October 20, 2011, 07:39:55 pmThat said, extending the Intertown to Kippax without connecting to buses at Kippax is a complete waste of time. They could have taken those resources and made the 43 half hourly and at least provided something worthwhile.
Quote from: King of Buses on October 21, 2011, 10:06:54 amIs there any news upon xpressos for Gungahlin?
Quote from: belcodriver on October 21, 2011, 07:59:23 pmThe long established tradition of changing the services through Nicholls and Ngunawal with every network change continues. Bad luck to the people who used to get the 52 to GMP or Civic you now have to get the 59 and go through Amaroo as well.
Quote from: Kramden on October 21, 2011, 09:10:16 pmFrom a driver's perspective I'm glad they're pissing off Cash and Christina Stead from route 58. It's a slow haul along there. It just doesn't seem like it was a road meant for buses.
Quote from: Kramden on October 21, 2011, 09:10:16 pmEr, am I missing something here? I didn't see any mention that the 52 will be altered from its current route.
Quote from: belcodriver on October 21, 2011, 10:15:57 pmLook at the map that has the changes to the 51 & 59 on it. The 59 is shown going the same way through Nicholls and Ngunawal as the 52 does now and there is no 52 on it.
Quote from: manhinli on October 21, 2011, 09:34:45 pmNew user here, from Gungahlin, commuting mostly around the northern half of Canberra. :)Every time I take the 58 I wonder how drivers feel handling buses on such narrow roads/bends. The roundabout on Christina Stead St has tyre marks on it from all the buses that go by. I like to avoid taking the 58 sometimes because I get disoriented/headachy with the frequent turning around Harrison.
Quote from: manhinli on October 21, 2011, 09:34:45 pmI like to avoid taking the 58 sometimes because I get disoriented/headachy with the frequent turning around Harrison.
QuoteHello,As someone who is a frequent user of public transport around the ACT I would like to have my input and offer a few suggestions for your planned 2012 changes:Belconnen:Extension of the Blue Rapid is a step in the right direction however I don't believe if done the proposed way it would function 100%. Knowing Canberran's you need to provide a large time saving for them to entice them to change buses. Without a restructure of the West Belconnen network I do not believe this service will function to it's full capacity. You could possibly get extra patronage on this service by ensuring there are connections to the 16, 17 and 44 as the patrons on the latter end of these services may see the gain in time given by the Kippax Rapid link.Gungahlin:As a daily user of the Belconnen to Gungahlin corridor I am not impressed with the idea of having the 58 deviate off the current routing which is already pushing what could be classed as a 'Direct' service. As a solution to this I wish to propose that the 59 services Crace.The Belconnen to Gungahlin corridor is currently very poorly serviced and something that needs to be addressed. I can offer two solutions:-Extend the Red Rapid to Belconnen-Extend the 57 to Belconnen thus providing a 20 minute frequency between the two centres. I also recommend that the 56 and 58 are removed from Baldwin Dr and resume the running of the current 51 from the William Slim/Chuculba timing point. Currently Baldwin Dr is a somewhat over serviced and under patronized area on the network, the College st area is well serviced and would not miss the two services an hour.The route 55 from Gungahlin is a great concept as long as the connections are guaranteed every time.Central Canberra:The changes here are great! Taking the 3 out of the National Museum, the only advice I could offer here would be making sure the timings on the route 3 are tightened as they are currently way too loose and buses are consistently running early. Woden/Narrabundah Area:In my personal opinion there is no reason for the route 4 to be extended to Woden, currently patronage is already very low and you would not find it hard to justify scrapping the route.Airport Precinct: The route 10 is currently not in need of more frequent services but for better hours of operation to the areas around the airport. Currently the last service to depart the City for Fairbairn is at 1630. This provide poor service to the residents of Fairbairn. A viable solution to this problem could be extending the route 9 from Campbell Park after hours thus providing service to these areas at a minimal cost.The airport itself is in need of a government bus service. The current private service is expensive and runs at time when no one wants to be at the airport. If negotiations were to reach an agreement for ACTION to provide service to the airport I could recommend the following from providing service.*To provide service to early flights, offer a service leaving direct to the airport from the City bus Interchange, offer this hourly until 7am.*As the route 200 is currently under patronized to DFO split it into two runs, the 200 from Gungahlin to DFO and the 201 from Gungahlin to Airport, both running from Gungahlin to Russell Offices as per current running before the 201 goes direct to the airport from Russell. *After the rapid stops operating the morning route could run hourly until last flight.Weekends:The weekend network is something that needs to be addressed, a great way to fix this would be using the network used over the 3 days of Christmas (without expressos) on Saturday and a cut down version of this on Sunday even if this is just as an interim measure until a proper weekend timetable can be implemented. Other Changes that could be made:Currently in the afternoon peak there are a lot of short working 300 services operating from City to Belconnen whilst the 710 also operates from a different platform and is somewhat under patronized. Bringing the 710 onto platform 3 would allow you to scrap the short working 300s and provide a faster link for passenger travelling between exclusivly City Bus Interchange and the Belconnen Town Centre without having to cross the joke that is Northbourne Ave in peak hour.
QuoteGood Evening,Below are a few suggestions in relation to the changes proposed in Network 2012. GUNGAHLINRoute 55Firstly, is it known whether Handbury Street will be open by May 2012? If so may I suggest that this route is extended further up Amy Ackman Street on the trip to Bonner, then come back into Forde via Jessie on the trip in. Also rather then send the 55 via Djerrka Street in Bonner, may I suggest keeping the route to Essie Coffey Street to then turn left onto Roden Cutler Drive. This way you improve your catchment for residents between Essie Coffey Street & Mabo Boulevard. Also once this route gets back onto Mabo Boulevard, rather then turn left onto William Cooper Avenue, may I suggest that this route continues along Mabo Boulevard then turn left onto Mulligan's Flat Road & right into Jessie Street. Route 51It is possible to know when Plimsol Drive be finished? I ask this as another temporary suggestion for the 51 could be to send the 51 to turn left on Plimsoll Drive & then right onto Yeend Avenue to then continue along the normal 51, or atleast have the 51 do a loop into the area of Casey known as Springbank Rise. My long term suggestion for services to Casey would be new route 50. Route 50 could be as below: Gungahlin Bus StationR Gozzard StreetL Anthony Rolfe AvenueC Mirrabei DriveL Len Waters StreetR Burramurra StreetC Into CaseyDo a loop around the northern section of Casey & end up on Plimsoll DriveL Overall AvenueR Clarie Holmes DriveC Kuringa Drive *Another option here is to run to Hall, with future proposal to run through Kinlyside.L Owen Dixon DriveR Gundaroo RoadC Belconnen Bus Stations This route could start up in Network 2013 with more opening up as more of Casey is complete. Route 58 I have a couple of options about the Crace deviation, my main point is for the 58 to not do this deviation & for the 56 & 58 to take the same route between Gungahlin Bus Station & the Belconnen Bus Stations. If these runs are timed to leave Belconnen & Gungahlin at 30 minute intervals, the route these two services take could become the Rapid connection between Gungahlin & Belconnen. While at the moment these services leave Belconnen close to each other & this potential connection is lost. My two route options for Crace are: Option 1-Deviate the 56 from Kosciusko Avenue at Grampians Street to then do a loop around Crace & then return to Kosciusko Avenue via Grampians Street again. Option 2-Send the 59 via the proposed 58 route through Crace. Now option 1 lets you bring back the old 54 & make the 59 to just do a loop from Gungahlin-Amaroo-Gungahlin, while option 2 still sends the 59 which runs mainly empty from Gungahlin from Belconnen. Of course the 54/59 loop could extend to Belconnen during morning peak. This loop will work if the 56 & 58 rapid connection is timed properly. Red RapidMay I suggest the Route 50 is scrapped & replaced with short running 200 services that service all stops after 19:00. This makes way for my Route 50 proposal. To finish off, may I suggest for future Network Proposals that changes planned as suburbs are grown are shown. This may help to reduce the number of submissions you receive. I am also curious myself as to what is the plan for future bus networks? For example would the 55 be extended to Jacka as it is built? Or if my Route 50 proposal under consideration all ready? Weekend Routes.As I suggestion could these services be streamlined to follow changes made to some weekday versions in Network 2008? A few suggestions are the 951/952 through Nicholls & the 956 through McKellar & the 921/922/923/924 through Woden Valley. This would make things easier on the public & wouldn't mean too many changes. But may I also suggest a review be done of weekend services, as there is never going to be the demand in Canberra for 7 day services, so these services are here to stay. I hope my suggestions have helped you out a little bit, if not for Network 2012, but maybe for Network 2013?Kind Regards, Bus 400*
QuoteThe spokesman said that both the authority and the territory's bus network were making plans to boost the numbers of workers taking the bus to their jobs in the triangle.''I understand also that ACTION are monitoring one of the bus routes through this area [route 6] to determine its effectiveness,'' he said.''The NCA is planning on upgrading all the bus shelters in the Parliamentary Zone this year.''
QuoteMeanwhile, changes are proposed in May to West Belconnen, Gungahlin, Fyshwick and central Canberra....(Paul Peters) said changes due in May this year would be finalised and published shortly.
Quote from: route56 on March 22, 2012, 08:59:01 pmAre the 9** numbers still weekend only ?
QuoteWill there still be inconsistent weekend/weekday route numbering ?
QuoteDeparture times for services from Woden to Weston Creek (Routes 25/28 and Routes 26/27) have been reworked to provide passengers with 30 minute frequency.
Quote from: smitho on April 06, 2012, 11:10:43 pmWatch for new Xpresso 770...from southern Tuggeranong.
Quote from: ACTION websiteSouthbound services Route 737 and 770 (formerly called 170) will depart from Platform 10 at City Bus Station.
Quote from: smitho on April 14, 2012, 01:11:59 amUnderstand that the driver shift pick scheduled for next month (to launch Network 12) will only be a short term affair..... and that another shift spill and new pick will take place after about 3 months into the new network. Not sure of reason why.
Quote from: smitho on April 15, 2012, 08:29:35 amAh, that explains wht TWU rep visited Tuggy muster room the other morning.
Quote from: belcodriver on April 15, 2012, 09:45:00 pmThe reason they provisionally accepted them is because of the larger than required number of drivers who will be promoted to full time. It will only be 33% part time once the new network starts.
Quote from: Bus 400 on April 15, 2012, 03:06:09 pmAlso whoever installed the blades in Bonner didn't realize that a one way loop services Bonner.
Quote from: smitho on April 14, 2012, 01:11:59 am... and that another shift spill and new pick will take place after about 3 months into the new network. Not sure of reason why.
Quote from: Bus 400 on May 06, 2012, 07:12:55 pmI know someone may be upset over this, but do Xpresso services still terminate at Electricity House (aka 221 London Circuit)? As while doing a quick flick through the 720 & 729 timetable they still feature the 'e' next to City (or blank in the case of the 729), but no longer feature an explanation for what the 'e' means.For those who aren't aware, this was what was mentioned in the Network 2009 timetables (I'm unsure about older versions (e Bus continues to ActewAGL House).
Quote from: Bus 400 on May 11, 2012, 07:26:28 pmAlso the old data is now irrelevant as no one would bother to make a new app with data that expires in 2 weeks.
Quote from: smitho on May 11, 2012, 11:33:43 pmFull page ACTION advert in this week's 'CHRONICLE' outlining Network 12..........
Quote from: Bus 400 on May 11, 2012, 10:30:04 pmFor me no trip exists for the 28/05/12.
Quote from: manhinli on May 12, 2012, 10:45:41 amAs soon as Google fetches the new feed next week, then all you can find are directions for May 28 and beyond, which basically shuts off Transit to most people in the meantime, because no one searches for bus times 2 weeks ahead.
Quote from: ACTbusspotter on March 22, 2012, 01:40:01 pmThe deletion of route 58 through Franklin suggests that route 57 will now operate for extended hours (beyond 6pm). Maybe. If not, Franklin residents will have been well and truly boned by this change.
Quote from: ACTbusspotter on May 12, 2012, 11:40:53 amPossibly a stupid question, but why does Google need to fetch a new feed next week? The version they have is valid until 27 May - as proven by Bus400's experiments.
QuoteGoogle accepts new feeds every day.Feeds provided by Friday will be refreshed on Google Maps by the following Friday. When you provide a new feed, it must have service as of the posting date.For example, if your posting date is February 6, 2009, your feed should include service from February 6 (or earlier) to February 19, and new service data from February 20. This is because we completely replace the previous data with the new data set.If your feed only includes service from February 20, when we completely replace your previous data on Friday 2/13, you won't have service on Google Maps for February 13 to February 19.
QuoteYou should also provide an update as soon as you know the schedule change, but no later than 2 weeks before the new schedule takes effect.
Quote from: ACTbusspotter on May 12, 2012, 11:40:53 amHandbury Way is spelled incorrectly
Quote from: ACTbusspotter on May 12, 2012, 03:17:24 pmSome Gungahlin weekend timings:Route 951 departs City :40 arrives GMP :02Route 952 departs City :10 arrives GMP :44Route 956 departs City :38 arrives GMP :16 (ish)
Quote from: ACTbusspotter on May 12, 2012, 12:19:32 amYes, there will be some AM route 200s commencing at Wizard/Flemington and terminating at City.
Quote from: ACTbusspotter on May 14, 2012, 03:52:22 pmThere are two services as listed on the ACTION HTML timetable page, but not appearing on the PDF timetable. Going by the "S" code (despite no legend on page), these will operate only during School Term. They most likely will be low floor buses, even though there is no code shown denoting that.I still don't get why the last 200 from GMP at 1900 is not a route 50, since it terminates in City.
Quote from: ACTbusspotter on May 14, 2012, 05:55:48 pmBus400, you will find that the 939 PDF has been updated and its route direction now matches the Transit Feed route.Manhinli, I've also noticed the Route 10 discrepancy (and reported it on twitter). At this stage my enquiries have not resulted in an answer about which is the correct route. Another newly-found discrepancy is the 952: Transit Feed shows route travelling along Cooyong / Northbourne but the timetable map shows Mort / Girrahween / Northbourne (which is the opposite problem that the 958 currently has).belcodriver, weekend Northbourne Ave routes 932 & 980 have new timings. City departure times will be:952 - :10932 - :13956 - :38951 - :40980 - :47And all weekend routes are marked as being wheelchair accessible.
Quote from: manhinli on May 14, 2012, 04:00:29 pmHalf runs 7:57am, 8:08am from Flemington/Wizard to City not listed on the 200 published timetable (it is present on web page, though marked with unclear 'S')
Quote from: Buzz Killington on May 14, 2012, 09:56:16 pmIf anyone finds any serious service deficiencies let us know, will try to get articles up on the site.
Quote from: smitho on May 16, 2012, 08:42:05 pmAn error in the combined Xpresso Timetable which includes the 729...route map shows the 729 going via Woden rather than Parkway & Parkes Way
Quote from: 743 on May 16, 2012, 09:49:32 pmNo it doesn't.
Quote from: smitho on May 17, 2012, 12:38:29 amYes, it does..look at the sketch map on the cover, NOT the route map.
Quote from: Mayor McCheese on May 16, 2012, 12:00:09 amJust like to point out a minor error in the 705 timetable, see if you can find it
Quote from: ACTbusspotter on May 12, 2012, 02:54:55 pmIf I understand correctly, they will have data for this week but then nothing next week?
Quote from: ACTbusspotter on May 22, 2012, 03:56:48 pmGoogle Transit still working and picking up "old" routes/timetables. But will it refresh on Monday?
Quote from: Bus 400 on May 26, 2012, 12:04:14 am*Route 26 now shows "Chapman via Cooleman Court". Thus loosing the destination "Weston Creek Terminus" also forgetting the fact the 26 terminates in Duffy.
Quote from: manhinli on May 26, 2012, 10:25:57 pm "Gungahlin / via. Barton" <--> " / via. City" "Fyshwick DFO / via. City" <--> " / via. Russell" <--> " / via. Barton"The text for Fyshwick DFO is too narrow and hard to read.
Quote from: smitho on May 26, 2012, 06:19:26 pmMarcus Clarke St south: Both routes northbound: Bus stop opposite the School of Music is now marked with a yellow blade sign; this is a long established 'bus stop' judging by the road markings. It may have been used by the old Canberra Hospital route in the dim dark days past.
Quote from: Bus 400 on May 27, 2012, 12:38:09 amThese two will be staying, but the Fyshwick DFO font size is no different to any other font where scrolling is involved.
Quote from: Bonnerbus on May 28, 2012, 04:44:35 pmI use the 200 in the morning. The 8am 200 was packed this morning still despite the 10 minute departure gap. I assume that over time the stats might make it clear that a large bus is required on this route.
Quote from: Bonnerbus on May 28, 2012, 04:44:35 pmHowever, why would the special 200s start at Mitchell?
Quote from: Bonnerbus on May 28, 2012, 04:44:35 pmWouldnt the 200 be a good choice to have as a card only bus route (like many in Sydney) considering the number of other routes that go to the City from Gungahlin?
Quote from: Bonnerbus on May 28, 2012, 04:44:35 pmLastly, why would we add more stops to the 200? Wouldnt it make sense to reduce the number or stops or introduce an actual express route from Gungahlin to the City?
QuoteCraig Dann, 19, was also less than pleased with his bus routes being extended to Kippax.The 318 and 319 routes will now run between Kippax, Belconnen, Civic, Woden, and Tuggeranong.''It used to go to Belconnen from Civic, now it also includes Kippax,'' he said.''I don't want to have to go to Kippax as well.''http://www.canberratimes.com.au/act-news/bus-fuss-as-commuters-go-the-extra-mile-20120528-1zfke.html#ixzz1wFLMQ9Ft
Quote from: 743 on May 30, 2012, 10:16:55 pmI'll be curious to see how Google goes with displaying the 55/955 considering the Handbury Way end of Forde along with a chunk of Essie Coffey St is missing off the base map. Perhaps they will have to update that too.
Quote from: manhinli on May 31, 2012, 04:22:24 pmHad someone come up from ACTION on City Platform 8 not too long ago take a survey.Asked about how I knew about Network 12, stuff like "how did you first hear about it?", "do you follow us on Twitter?" etc.
Quote from: Bus 400 on May 27, 2012, 12:38:09 amIt is ACTION's first time at having to update the Google Transit feed so they get a bit of slack.
Quote from: Bus 400 on October 20, 2012, 06:58:20 amIf you get a chance King Of Buses, watch the 924 or the 981 desto on a MAN, they do a similar thing.
Quote from: King of Buses on October 19, 2012, 02:09:50 pmHas anybody seen the desto for the 319 on the Scania L94UB's (for northbound I think)?
Quote from: ACTbusspotter on October 20, 2012, 10:35:47 amOne of the Tuggeranong weekend loops (913?). Bus400 will know.