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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #100 on: July 16, 2010, 05:05:24 PM »
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490 was out yesterday on a 312 From Tuggy.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #101 on: July 16, 2010, 07:20:19 PM »
Nothing unusual, the driver is a member, it does the same runs every day.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #102 on: July 16, 2010, 09:31:00 PM »
I got a few pics of 490 today, however they are on film so they have not been developed, my camera comes from the stone age.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #103 on: July 17, 2010, 02:07:21 PM »
490 resumed doing regular services on Thursday 15th July...

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #104 on: August 11, 2010, 12:59:10 PM »
Performance curves for the Scania OC9 G04 5-cylinder engine.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #105 on: August 11, 2010, 05:44:26 PM »
They obviously use a different formula for Nm, as a Cummins and Scania with the same outputs don't pull the same! I think they took the 1100Nm reading with the emissions controls turned off.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #106 on: August 12, 2010, 01:34:03 AM »
They obviously use a different formula for Nm, as a Cummins and Scania with the same outputs don't pull the same! I think they took the 1100Nm reading with the emissions controls turned off.

Performance curves are provided for full-load only.  Partial load performance will be significantly different but having said that, ~550Nm at idle is very poor and similar to what you'd get from the IVECO Cursor 8 engine used on the Irisbus Citellis.  Mercedes-Benz's gas engine in comparison puts out 1000Nm (185kW) or 1200Nm (240kW) at 650rpm.
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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #107 on: November 18, 2010, 10:09:05 PM »
Bus 490 has been sitting next to Belconnen Workshop for the past week. I wonder how much trouble they'll go to, when they eventually get it out.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #108 on: November 18, 2010, 10:19:09 PM »
Apparently it has shat a gearbox, seems to be a common thing at the moment (464, 709 and now 490!!)

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #109 on: November 25, 2010, 10:41:58 PM »
Scania has publicly released more information about the new 9.3-litre CNG engines:

Press release with engine diagrams: http://www.scanianewsroom.com/2010/09/22/new-gas-engines-for-trucks-and-buses-diesel-like-performance-and-modular-design/

Scania OC9 G04 270 performance curves:


Scania OC9 G05 305 performance curves:
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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #110 on: November 25, 2010, 10:43:57 PM »
490 now back at Tuggeranong but not ready to re enter service

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #111 on: February 16, 2011, 05:42:30 PM »
I have heard from a very reliable source that tomorrow will be 490s last day in ACTION service (for now anyway), so I suggest if you are yet to ride it, go looking for it tomorrow.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #112 on: February 16, 2011, 06:45:35 PM »
i've seen it in service every morning in woden, it'll be sad to see the "albino" scania leave canberra. its a good thing i've caught it a few times :)

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #113 on: February 16, 2011, 08:18:06 PM »
I saw it today. Never rode it, oh well.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #114 on: February 16, 2011, 08:24:46 PM »
I never got it either, although I do recall one day I decided to drive to work and got home just as my usual bus home went past.. and yep, it was 490.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #115 on: February 16, 2011, 09:02:04 PM »
I have heard from a very reliable source that tomorrow will be 490s last day in ACTION service (for now anyway), so I suggest if you are yet to ride it, go looking for it tomorrow.

Cya white whale.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #116 on: February 18, 2011, 04:55:17 PM »
I have heard from a very reliable source that tomorrow will be 490s last day in ACTION service (for now anyway), so I suggest if you are yet to ride it, go looking for it tomorrow.

Well your source is wrong, sorry. I saw her today(18/2/11) at 4:15 doing a 315. The White whales LIVES!

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #117 on: February 21, 2011, 07:40:12 AM »
Wouldn't she(?) have another month to go?

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #118 on: February 21, 2011, 07:41:49 AM »
As first reported by Martin, 490 was in service today.

I spotted it in City around 1.30 this afternoon.

or maybe not, I can't read...

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #119 on: February 24, 2011, 06:04:58 PM »
Well, according to http://www.rego.act.gov.au Bus 490 has just been registered to the 17th February 2012.
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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #120 on: February 24, 2011, 06:08:36 PM »
That's interesting. You'd think if it was moving on they would've renewed it for three months.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #121 on: March 10, 2011, 04:54:32 PM »
ACTION have told us that the trial of 490 has indeed been extended, with no end date at this point. They added that the trial has been "very positive".

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #122 on: March 11, 2011, 11:03:17 AM »
Except for the bus shitting itself it seems to run fine all be it a bit slow...also the fact its a prototype means its bound to screw up

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #123 on: March 24, 2011, 06:21:50 PM »
ACTION have told us that the trial of 490 has indeed been extended, with no end date at this point. They added that the trial has been "very positive".

They get a free bus, even if it spends half its life on the bricks what's not to like?

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #124 on: April 08, 2011, 12:36:50 PM »
I noticed today that 490 has myway readers

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #125 on: April 10, 2011, 06:27:27 PM »
I noticed today that 490 has myway readers

Maybe because the old readers won't be working from now on? I have no idea, just a guess...

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #126 on: April 12, 2011, 11:27:10 AM »
No, 490 did not get the MyWay set up initially because it was not expected to be in service past February.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #127 on: June 01, 2011, 04:49:01 PM »
Still here. Doing a 31 today at about 8:40am. Looking a bit dirty.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #128 on: June 07, 2011, 06:45:12 PM »
Looks like it is doing the 31 each morning heading towards Kaleen. Gets to the hockey center around 8:40am. Theres a chance if anyone is intrested, but if it doesn't come don't hold me too it.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #129 on: August 28, 2011, 07:12:46 PM »
Anyone seen 490 lately?

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #130 on: August 28, 2011, 07:34:09 PM »
Yep, it has been out quite a lot lately.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #131 on: August 28, 2011, 07:53:29 PM »
Still doing the 31 each morning as i posted above.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #132 on: August 28, 2011, 07:56:37 PM »
Thanks guys. Questions were raised on Twitter and I hadn't seen it around myself.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #133 on: August 28, 2011, 09:50:39 PM »
It's got rego til February next year, so it'll be here for a while yet.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #134 on: August 28, 2011, 10:56:20 PM »
It went past my house at 11pm last night on the last 905.... As well as the 31 in does a 31?S (8 or 9) into the City about 1415

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Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #135 on: June 13, 2012, 02:09:02 PM »
Bus 490 looks to of been withdrawn from ACTION with no ACTION logos visible & the rear number plate missing.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #136 on: July 16, 2012, 08:02:08 PM »
Is it still at Tuggeranong?

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« Reply #137 on: July 16, 2012, 10:16:52 PM »
As of 2 weekends ago it was, but I suspect it left when Bus 506 was delivered.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #138 on: July 18, 2012, 10:27:03 PM »
Is it still at Tuggeranong?

I'm pretty sure it was around all (or most) of last week; haven't noticed it this week.

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Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #139 on: July 19, 2012, 05:41:48 PM »
Is it still at Tuggeranong?

Just drove past Tuggeranong Depot & Bus 490 is no longer there.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #140 on: July 19, 2012, 06:07:38 PM »
Will be interesting to see where it turns up next

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #141 on: July 21, 2012, 01:02:38 AM »
Will be interesting to see where it turns up next

Has headed up to Sydney....and may be a Koala crushing plant up there????

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #142 on: December 29, 2012, 01:57:18 PM »
'Bus 400' contacted Scania to find out the fate of Bus 490 and has kindly sent through a copy of their response:

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This unit was a long term factory field trail of the new CNG system on the 5 cyl 9lt engine that has now been introduced to the worldwide market in both trucks and buses.

It was given the nick-name of “Koala” by the R&D department in Sweden who like to personalize these things.

The 2 year trial period was completed in June and the bus was removed from service and is now at our Head Office in Melbourne.

As with all factory field trial units, this bus has been decommissioned and the relevant trial components (engine, fuel system, transmission, engine control units) removed and sent back to Sweden for review by the R&D department gurus.

The rest of the bus is being “scrapped” and we are utilizing some chassis components in out technical training school and some of the body parts will end up with various bus operators for spares.

So, alas, this particular Koala is dead.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #143 on: December 29, 2012, 07:51:54 PM »
What a waste of a good bus body.  :(

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #144 on: December 29, 2012, 08:47:05 PM »
What a waste of a good bus body.  :(
Obviously you aren't familiar with Customs earlier work in the 90's. The bodies they build now are cheap plastic rubbish compared to the older stuff. It was all downhill after the 510/550 series.

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Re: Scania K230UB CNG Demonstrator (BUS 490)
« Reply #145 on: December 31, 2012, 04:24:51 PM »
It's more the frame than the plastic parts that is the waste. Frame still had some years left in it.