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Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« on: May 12, 2009, 07:00:32 PM »
Yeah shut up about Belconnen. Tuggeranong has a weird smell and the interchange smells like piss.

Split from some other thread. This is now a full-on debate thread. Pick your side and defend it. Feel free to get a bit defensive but we'll remove posts if people get too nasty.

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2009, 07:03:36 PM »
Belconnen is a hole. End of story.
« Last Edit: May 12, 2009, 07:31:10 PM by Sir Pompously »

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2009, 07:16:04 PM »
TUGGERANONG smells like piss...?

Did you ever go to Belconnen interchange?
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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2009, 07:23:31 PM »
Yep, every day, doesn't smell as bad as Tuggeranong.

In the words of Chris_Guru "Tuggeranong is Canberra's answer to Queanbeyan"

I mean last week when I was walking out of the Hyperdome there was some guy taking a leak in the corner of the interchange...yuck!!

The only place in Belconnen that would happen is Charnwood.
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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2009, 07:37:55 PM »
Ah, no. That would happen in Belconnen Interchange and anywhere else that has a concrete wall. Whether Belconnen, Tuggeranong, Woden or Civic. Tuggeranong has a nice open interchange, better than the closed in state of Belconnen and Woden. The whole town centre is designed to have the feel of a country town, Red colourbond or Brick roofing, and open parkland. Tuggeranong College does not have as many people that would roll you, unlike Lake Ginninderra full sick yulleh college. Infact Tuggeranong College students are quite bareable. The housing in the region is very 1980's and 1990's, unlike Belconnen which is mostly 1960's, 1970's white or grey brick housing which looks completly dated, cheap and tacky. We don't have house after house of broken EA falcons on the lawn with southern cross stickers and the owners having a pissup on their lawn due to their recent insertion of Kev Kash into their accounts. We don't have Charnwood. And I think we can all agree, nothing is worse than Woden.

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #5 on: May 12, 2009, 07:42:22 PM »
no, Northbourne ave. is the worst, the boganpart anyway

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #6 on: May 12, 2009, 07:54:02 PM »
Fact: There is more concrete in Belconnen per capita than the next leading brand.

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #7 on: May 12, 2009, 07:57:12 PM »
Todd you forgot to mention they also have VN commodores littering every other lawn. Plus every house looks the same, have you driven through macgregor lately, that whole part from eccles cct to that bridge, every house is the same design, just different colours...

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #8 on: May 12, 2009, 08:00:21 PM »
plus the houses in macgregor have pointless, ridiculously oversized, gates on their front deck.

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #9 on: May 12, 2009, 08:03:10 PM »
I've made the topic a sticky and added in the CIVIL WAR graphic into Zac's Post

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #10 on: May 12, 2009, 08:04:02 PM »
As I said Tuggeranong smells like shit!! There is no denying it Tuggeranong is a hole!!!

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #11 on: May 12, 2009, 08:07:24 PM »
What reasons do you have for Tuggeranong being a hole?

Everything is newer than most of Belconnen, It's the only town centre with a colour theme, we don't have dated 70's buildings...have you seen page shops!? why don't they just turn those into town houses.

Plus they have circuitus bus routes that only go to Belconnen Interchange like the 43, 45 and routes that only go to small shopping centres like the 16 and the 17.

It's suburbs are all layed out in a boring grid, plus it has more dated depot facilities, no gas line, plus irisbuses.

And in two weeks time it won't even have an interchange.

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #12 on: May 12, 2009, 08:10:25 PM »
There is no Page shops!!! It's a fucking plumbing service.

Tuggeranong is a hole because it smells, it's fast food outlets are shit (especially Tuggmac) and it has so many hills

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #13 on: May 12, 2009, 08:12:16 PM »
"It smells"

What a cohesive, intelligent argument backed up with sufficient evidence and debate.

oh wait

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #14 on: May 12, 2009, 08:30:36 PM »
We can solve this in one line.

Which place is built in a hole?

End of argument!

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #15 on: May 12, 2009, 08:32:55 PM »
The fast food outlets are the same as Belconner. Hungry Jacks, McDonalds, KFC plus everything else in the food court which is similar (The non chain stores). There is a Red Rooster just up the road in Wanniassa, which I might add has some f**king hot staff working there. You can't say a place 'Smells'. Smells is too much of a Generalisation, and each area has it's own particular smell, and each season does aswell. Everywhere smells, you cannot use that as a basis for any argument as you can never escape from smell. Hill's, well what area in Canberra does not have hills in it? Did you also know that in a Suburb that is Hilly, it is less likely that your house will be broken into? A Flat suburb, or series of suburbs has more break in's. Hill's are great, they give most people a decent view and also provide an area at the top for recreation facilities.

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #16 on: May 12, 2009, 08:33:27 PM »
Which place is built in a hole?

Canberra?

That doesn't solve anything!

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #17 on: May 12, 2009, 08:37:41 PM »
I think he means Tuggeranong

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #18 on: May 12, 2009, 08:40:33 PM »
Ah, no Ryan was saying Canberra, as in Canberra itself.....

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #19 on: May 12, 2009, 08:44:29 PM »
What about which town centre is being redeveloped?
Who has the main Police centre (Winchester Centre)?
Who had a remand centre?

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #20 on: May 12, 2009, 09:22:03 PM »
After hearing a story that there was a fight in Tuggeranong Interchnage recently where the offender attemted to rip the victims teeth out with plyers doesn't leave much to the imagination.

The demographic layout states that there are more young people in Tuggeranong than Belconnen, which consists of a larger elderly population. I'd rather live with old people than youngsters that 'rap' and threaten to 'roll' anyone that they cross paths with.

Oh, and TP 3000, the 'Main police centre' is a valuble asset.

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #21 on: May 12, 2009, 09:26:15 PM »
And John, imagine the stories you don't hear about at Woden, Civic and Belconnen Interchanges aswell. Each has there fair share of violence, and it doesn't matter where you go in Canberra you will find that. Same with young people. Just because a demographic shows you there are more young people in one area, it does not mean Belconnen does not have it's fair share of rolling.

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #22 on: May 12, 2009, 09:36:27 PM »
Well, I've never seen a over 65 y/o 'roll'. Tuggeranong definately has more of it though.

Tuggeranong has a lot going for it, the infrastricture is great, very nice, the environment that surrounds it is equally as good, but the population that dwell within Tuggeranong let it down, and generally speaking, it does have a lot of crime in the area.

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #23 on: May 12, 2009, 09:40:05 PM »
Oh, and TP 3000, the 'Main police centre' is a valuble asset.

But the main Police centre is at Belconnen, so that the detectives & other specialist units can get to the serious incidents quicker.

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #24 on: May 12, 2009, 09:43:31 PM »
Going by that theory, the NSW Police Command Operations Centre would be in Mt Druitt, but is it? No.....
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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #25 on: May 12, 2009, 09:49:55 PM »
As I said Tuggeranong smells like shit!! There is no denying it Tuggeranong is a hole!!!


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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #26 on: May 12, 2009, 09:51:28 PM »
Ha ha ha! Hilarious!!!

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #27 on: May 12, 2009, 09:57:42 PM »
Well, I've never seen a over 65 y/o 'roll'. Tuggeranong definately has more of it though.

Tuggeranong has a lot going for it, the infrastricture is great, very nice, the environment that surrounds it is equally as good, but the population that dwell within Tuggeranong let it down, and generally speaking, it does have a lot of crime in the area.

Yes and like I said, it is not the 65yo that will it is the Young people that will, John. Everywhere has it's fair share. Living in Belconnen does not make you immune, and living in Tuggeranong does not mean you will more than likely be. It is throwing everyone into the same basket and saying 'Because there are more kids, the majority of them must be bad. I won't go there because I will get rolled'. Lived here for 20years John, someone tried to Roll me and my brother in Woden, they didn't get anything from us. But never in Tuggeranong.

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #28 on: May 12, 2009, 10:11:11 PM »
Quote from: Sir Pompously
Living in Belconnen does not make you immune
Only living in a cave in total solidarity would mnake you immune, but living in an area with less young people would definately shelter you from it to some extent.

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #29 on: May 12, 2009, 10:16:10 PM »
John, think of it this way.

Any time you have ever come in to contact with these scum, they are only ever in two places.

In and around public transport, and in and around shopping centres.

So forget the public transport scene, and assume you drive everywhere you go and never catch the bus, now how many teens do you run into?

You can't use that as an argument for which side of town is better.

Might I mention Weston is in a valley too...as well as all of Canberra.

Have you been to Tuggeranong on a crisp morning...this is for John only...it has the serenity of Mt Thomas john...wow!

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #30 on: May 12, 2009, 10:19:13 PM »
Ooooh, Mt Thomas.

Yes, generally speaking, these young people will create commotion in the suburbs, and get up to no good, i.e. cause crimes, vandalise, and in rare cases, break and enter and steal vehicles.

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #31 on: May 12, 2009, 10:21:14 PM »

Have you been to Tuggeranong on a crisp morning...this is for John only...it has the serenity of Mt Thomas john...wow!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVR9PzpLW7Q

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #32 on: May 12, 2009, 10:21:29 PM »
Why do you think that Tuggeranong has one of the highest mountains in Canberra to its north? To block Belconnen out that's why.

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #33 on: May 12, 2009, 10:22:58 PM »
Now i get to read this thread with the blue heelers theme...you dont get that in belconnen

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #34 on: May 12, 2009, 10:23:54 PM »
Gee todd, way to choose an old version...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LBLn1ZmKlW8&feature=related

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #35 on: May 12, 2009, 10:26:12 PM »
Ohhh that's right, the Funkyfied the theme. They made it more Racey and jam packed full of hot Mt Thomas action.
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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #36 on: May 12, 2009, 10:26:59 PM »
You 2 are very strange at times.

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #37 on: May 12, 2009, 10:28:33 PM »
:) That we are Lemon

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #38 on: May 12, 2009, 10:29:16 PM »
i prefer the northside just because it has nicer scenery than the southside and better everything

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #39 on: May 12, 2009, 10:33:08 PM »
We have a south sider on our side so yeah.
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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #40 on: May 12, 2009, 10:54:27 PM »
and i prefer the better bus routes except for when they go through charnwood (reminds me of a suburb where i used to live in england called bidston aka the north end of birkenhead)

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #41 on: May 13, 2009, 09:42:24 AM »
belconnen has charnwood.

instant loss.

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #42 on: May 13, 2009, 12:18:53 PM »
Tuggeranong has Kambah, Richardson, Waniassa, Chisholm, and don't get me started on Woden.
As I was discussing with another board member, while only one bad suburb can be named in Belconnen, many can be named in Tuggeranong/Woden.

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #43 on: May 13, 2009, 02:21:03 PM »
mawson is bad but chifley is pleasent because i live there and the shops have cherry coke and a nice pizza every wednesday night at a bite to eat

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #44 on: May 13, 2009, 04:11:41 PM »
Since this argument is heading towards naming and shaming suburbs...where do we draw the line of north vs. south?

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #45 on: May 13, 2009, 04:36:47 PM »
IDK, Parliament House?  That is about the centre.

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #46 on: May 13, 2009, 05:09:42 PM »
Lake Burley Griffin, it was built to keep the northsiders out of the southside, BUT they built 2 bridges now northsiders roam wild in the southside :)

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #47 on: May 14, 2009, 05:27:53 PM »
Tuggeranong has Kambah, Richardson, Waniassa, Chisholm, and don't get me started on Woden.
As I was discussing with another board member, while only one bad suburb can be named in Belconnen, many can be named in Tuggeranong/Woden.

Nothing wrong with Kambah and Wanniassa. Whilst they do have their.. .lower income areas, all suburbs do.

Agree that Richardson is a hole.

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #48 on: May 14, 2009, 07:56:05 PM »
Which depot has the most radio call ups (John Smith call base)? If you hear it long enough, you'll see that Belconnen depot drivers get the most call up,s while Tuggeranong drivers rarely get called up.

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Re: Belconnen vs Tuggeranong
« Reply #49 on: May 14, 2009, 07:59:15 PM »
and that relates to this discussion how?