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Canberra Metro / Re: LR general discussion
Last post by Barry Drive - Today at 11:00:01 am
QuoteTerminology.
Light Rail or Tram?

What I do think is that this forum needs to decide whether to refer to the infrastructure as a Light Rail or Tram system; and the vehicles as Light Rail Vehicles or Trams.
If you'll refer to the ACT Bus Gallery and Fleetwiki sites, you will notice that the terminology for the vehicles is consistent: we call them trams. CAF also call the Urbos 100 series as trams. As does Newcastle.

Is it a Light Rail System or a tram line?
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Canberra Metro / Re: Light Rail Stage 1 Constru...
Last post by Busnerd - Today at 10:33:09 am
Have noticed the 'rock walls' taking shape at all the pedestrian crossings on Northbourne, where the 'unfinished' looking walls originally were, now makes sense why, they're all getting the same treatment, although only noticed one crew working on one wall the other day.

Also noticed as you say the pavers lifted at gungahlin and workers had dug a large hole and a vacuum truck was in attendance, perhaps an issue with water leaking or underground pipes needing works?

As per your covered signals at Gungahlin, the ones near the city have also been covered once again.
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Canberra Metro / Re: LR general discussion
Last post by Busnerd - Today at 10:26:01 am
Only thing to agree upon there is it is not a metro system, if anything you could class it as a 'Premetro' as several light rail systems are called in Europe, but that's another story.

If you're bored and want a read however - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Premetro
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Announcements and Guidelines / Re: ACT BUS Updates
Last post by Busfanatic101 - Today at 09:16:41 am
Probably not something you can change at your end, but selecting the correct word/spelling suggestion on my preferred phone keyboard no longer works. It works fine on other sites. 
The stock keyboard on my phone does work for the forum though.
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Canberra Metro / Re: LR general discussion
Last post by Busfanatic101 - Today at 09:11:26 am
Quote from: triumph on Yesterday at 10:59:02 pmTerminology.
Light Rail or Tram? Both terms are being used for the same thing and it is bugging me.

Unfortunately, many commentators are attempting to belittle the system here in Canberra by calling it a 'tram', so despite the convenience of the word tram, perhaps Light Rail and LRV are more appropriate for this Forum.
Does it matter? There is only one tram/LRV/Metro system in Canberra, and no room for confusion.

Does it bug you too that people might refer to their IGA as a shop, supermarket, or grocer; and Bus 538 as a long bus, an artic, or a bendy?
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From Google:


Quote from: undefinedbus station

noun

  • a place in a town where buses arrive and depart.



Why would it need to have 'special infrastructure' to be called a bus station? There are plenty of train stations which have little more than a platform and a sign.

They are using the term bus station to refer to the main transfer points for buses. What they might have called interchange in the past.
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Routes and Timetables / Re: Network 2019 - the final v...
Last post by triumph - Yesterday at 11:11:13 pm
Quote from: triumph on March 14, 2019, 11:43:35 pmThe Emu Bank stop is just that, a blade on a pole. At least the Eastern Valley Way stop has a shelter. 
The Emu Bank stop DOES have a shelter. Should not have relied on memory, sorry. But still, they are normal shelters with nothing special about the infrastructure to warrant the term 'Bus Station'.
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Canberra Metro / Re: LR general discussion
Last post by triumph - Yesterday at 10:59:02 pm
Terminology.
Light Rail or Tram? Both terms are being used for the same thing and it is bugging me.

Considering a traditional tram system mostly sharing road space with traffic and stops just a marker, serviced by single/coupled rigid units. It is clearly not a tram system. But trams have evolved to multi module units using dedicated tracks with stops with platforms (driven in Melbourne now by disability access rules). But in places like Melbourne, the system is also a mixture ranging from traditional to the latest iteration. Just to muddy the waters further the brand new Newcastle Light Rail System uses only up to the minute multi module units but still provides shared sections of street. At some undefined point there is a crossover from tram to light rail (and then to metro).

I don't think there is a clear definitional answer (especially as overseas countries vary in usage too). What I do think is that this forum needs to decide whether to refer to the infrastructure as a Light Rail or Tram system; and the vehicles as Light Rail Vehicles or Trams.

Clearly Transport Canberra and Canberra Metro uses Light Rail with no reference to trams. But Metro? Thats another whole discussion with terminology meaning different things in different countries.

Despite the title Canberra Metro, I think we have what is probably predominantly known as Light Rail with Metro predominantly meaning a more sophisticated system more like heavy rail without the mixed traffic.

Unfortunately, many commentators are attempting to belittle the system here in Canberra by calling it a 'tram', so despite the convenience of the word tram, perhaps Light Rail and LRV are more appropriate for this Forum.

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Canberra Metro / Re: Light Rail Stage 1 Constru...
Last post by triumph - Yesterday at 10:31:41 pm
Canberra Metro has stated that a 7 day 'performance test' is taking place this week. It appears to have started on Sunday. It consists of what they describe as a 'ghost system'. That is a replication, as closely as possible, of operation as it will occur under the proposed timetable. This includes stop pauses, stop announcements, etc.

I noticed at Gungahlin today, two LRVs participating. They were loaded with sand bag piles on floors and seats to simulate the passenger weight and enable fully loaded operational conditions.

Peculiarly, despite the effort at realism, the signalling at Gungahlin was covered and not being used.

It never seems to end, a section of paving at Gungahlin at the northern end of the terminal has been lifted and the slab underneath removed, with a hole excavated. No workers were seen.

The walling previously mentioned has not progressed significantly but rock is laying about at one (at least) crossing. So more wall work is apparently still to come.

An indication of the habits formed by Canberra drivers are temporary warning signs advising drivers that traffic lights timing sequence varies!

The rte 200 bus I was on left Gungahlin just after LRV006 for the City had left. Joining Flemington Rd the LRV passed in front. It was leaving Nullabor Ave as we arrived. A wheelchair passenger alighted. Later LRV006 was visible in the distance approaching Well Station Dr.. After that it was not visible to me again untill the bus turned into Cooyong St where I could see it at the Alinga St terminal.

The bus was off peak (early afternoon), lightly loaded, with a good run and better than average favourable traffic lights, but some works speed limited sections. En route, 6 North bound LRVs were passed.

LRV units noted at various locations were 006, 008, 009, 012 but I could not read all numbers.

 
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The Playground / Re: What bus did you get today...
Last post by triumph - Yesterday at 09:49:26 pm

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