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Routes and Timetables / Re: Network 2018
« Last post by muke on Yesterday at 07:11:31 PM »
I suspect the ultimate use of the “FRC” will be a direct Belco to Woden via Molonglo and Weston rapid with a connection at Weston for Tuggeranong. It will be the final piece of the puzzle that addresses the present shortcomings if the 300series blue rapids connecting Woden and Belco via City are cut up in the new network.
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Routes and Timetables / Re: Network 2018
« Last post by Barry Drive on Yesterday at 12:40:08 PM »
I reckon the R7 could be extended to Tuggeranong via Namatjira Dr, and the 70/71 remain the same or similar to existing routes 60/62, with connections on Sulwood Dr and Drakeford Dr for travel to Cooleman Court
I agree with that. While I would prefer a City - Tuggeranong direct service, a City - Weston - Tuggeranong all-day Rapid is a suitable alternative. And it has the added advantage of shortening the 70/71 as stated.

And while I understand the usefulness of having R8 extend to Molonglo, there just aren't enough people in the area (yet) to make that viable. There's limited amount of buses and drivers (and you can't do everything).
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Routes and Timetables / Re: Route 53 to Moncrieff
« Last post by Barry Drive on Yesterday at 11:56:35 AM »
The new GTFS has been released to include Routes 53 & 953

It's worse than I'd imagined: 53 runs hourly - even during peak. Services operate from 0604 until 2104. Journey length is 40 minutes during peak and 37 off peak. All trips are shown as Wheelchair accessible.

So this suggests 4 part time shifts, each doing 4 trips unless other shifts have been altered.

On Saturdays (Route 953), first departure is at 0646 and there's 15 trips with the last at 2046. GTFS file suggests 4 shifts - one with 3 trips, 3 with 4 trips.

On Sundays (Route 953), first departure is at 0846 with 12 trips with the last at 1846. Possibly 3 shifts each with 4 trips.
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Canberra Metro / Re: Stage 2 (City to Woden) Route
« Last post by Busfanatic101 on June 22, 2018, 11:32:26 PM »
Quote
Parliament House light rail route may be more direct, but not cheaper
By Katie Burgess
21 June 2018 — 9:18pm
Building the light rail network via Parliament House instead of Barton may make the trip shorter, but not cheaper.

On Wednesday, it was revealed the trip on stage two of light rail to Civic to Woden via the Barr government's chosen route will take around 25 minutes.


It is five minutes longer than an alternate route proposed that went past Parliament House.

The current blue rapid bus that connects the two centres takes about 15 minutes.

Those living on the southside say their trip times into the city will suffer as a result of the change to light rail.

The Woden Valley Community Council said travel times would double for Woden residents, with even more blowouts for people living in Tuggeranong.


But ACT government officials appearing before a federal parliamentary committee examining the impact of the project on the Parliamentary Triangle on Thursday said the Barton route was preferable in a number of ways.

Transport Canberra deputy director-general Duncan Edghill said an overwhelming number of people supported the Barton route when surveyed last year, and it would take in more employment hubs, national institutions and hotels than the more direct route.

He said while the Parliament House route may be more direct, it would likely be more expensive because of the extra heritage constraints, the need to build another bridge and more pedestrian crossings.

However he was unable to provide any alternate costings that the $1.3-1.6 billion figure released on Wednesday.

He also chose his words carefully when asked if the light rail would take longer and run less frequently than the current bus.


"People's journeys will change," he said.

"Upwards?" committee chair Ben Morton asked.

Transport Canberra director general Emma Thomas stepped in, saying light rail and the blue rapid should not be compared directly.

"It's not just from Woden to Civic people are travelling, there's a whole range of journeys," she said.

Mr Edghill said it was yet to be decided if the blue rapid would be dumped once the Woden leg of light rail came online.

The government's submission to the inquiry said the idea of a Kings Avenue route had been quickly scuttled because it would have taken five to seven minutes more, reducing patronage by one-fifth.

A spokeswoman for stage two light rail said passenger modelling showed about the same level of people catching the light rail both on the Barton and Parliament House routes.

"Although the Parkes and Barton route has a longer travel time, this is offset by people wanting to travel to places of employment and interest in the area," she said.

Officials were also questioned on the choice of Commonwealth Avenue over Kings Avenue.

Mr Edghill said that alignment allowed them to pick up passengers from the Australian University.


Mr Morton asked whether Parkes Way had been considered as an alternate route to take the tram via Kings Avenue bridge to Woden.

"Parkes Way has other functions that don't lend itself to light rail," Mr Edghill said.

Mr Edghill also revealed the cost of building the bridge in between the existing Commonwealth Bridge for light rail would be roughly the same as building infrastructure on existing lanes.

"It's actually easier to build a bridge in between. There's complications with retrofitting an old bridge," Mr Edghill said.

In a bizarre twist, while the Commonwealth Bridge is the owned by the federal government, it appears the ACT government will own the bridge in the centre.

"We're paying for it," Mr Edghill said, by way of explanation.

Another bridge would need to be built if the light rail were to use Kings Avenue as well.

Mr Edghill admitted the idea of tunnelling under the lake had been briefly considered, but quickly scrapped due to cost.

Representatives from the National Capital Authority looked at each other when asked which bridge they would prefer the light rail to use.

"We'd prefer to see more traffic modelling first," chief executive Sally Barnes said.

The National Capital Authority has also indicated they would prefer Adelaide Avenue to be wire-free on the approach to Parliament House.

However Ms Thomas said current technology would not permit the light rail batteries to hold a charge for the 2.3 kilometres in between the last Barton stop and the Hopetoun Circuit stop, meaning wires were required.

Mr Edghill said wires allowed the light rail to reach its top speed, whereas running from a battery meant it had to go somewhat slower to conserve charge.
However he noted the light rail would be running in 2024 at the earliest, meaning the technology could have changed by then.

https://amp.canberratimes.com.au/politics/act/parliament-house-light-rail-route-may-be-more-direct-but-not-cheaper-20180621-p4zmxn.html


This article still refers to the blue rapid but with the new rapid network, I would be more optimistic about the retention of R4 as the light rail would be percieved more as a replacement of R5 rather than R4 perhaps?
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Photo of the Month / Re: Photo of the Month - July 2018
« Last post by Busfanatic101 on June 22, 2018, 10:37:21 PM »

A fairly new Volvo B7R with a Volgren "Endura" body, QCity Bus 7390 operates School Run 52 on Monaro St, Queanbeyan (Apr '18)


In an abberation of events, Bus 483, a Steer Tag is erranously allocated to this shift and operates a route 65 (Feb '18)
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Routes and Timetables / Re: Network 2018
« Last post by Toyota Camry on June 22, 2018, 07:33:40 PM »
Personally; my opinion is that if you are seeking a lifestyle without cars, you should move to another city, such as Sydney. Canberra has excellent roads for driving on, and that fact combined with small population makes it uneconomical to run enough buses.

My suggestion to you; is that if it is your desire to not ever drive, you should budget enough money to afford trips with taxi and ride sharing services, such as Uber, Ola, GoCatch, Canberra Cabs, Canberra Elite Taxis, CabXpress and ACTCABS.

The alternative, is to spend half of your life divided between sitting on bus stops, at bus stations and on buses taking the long way through the suburbs.
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Routes and Timetables / Re: Network 2018
« Last post by Sylvan Loves Buses on June 22, 2018, 12:42:45 PM »
It's not that I don't like cars, I just don't like your attitude on this matter.
I already do deal with that as I have done for the past 21 years...
Besides, fuel is expensive, taxis aren't cheap, and neither my mum nor I have a license, so what else am I suppose to do huh? I've been whining about buses for 20 years, it's not like I'm gonna stop...
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Announcements and Guidelines / Re: ACT BUS Updates
« Last post by Barry Drive on June 22, 2018, 09:21:10 AM »
Yes, I changed the squares recently. It basically represents your seniority on the forum. Once you go over 1000 posts, you'll get more squares.

As for the icons - no. The forum software only allows for "read" and "un read" icons.
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Routes and Timetables / Re: Network 2018
« Last post by Snorzac on June 22, 2018, 08:36:53 AM »
Lets be very clear, there is a direct service linking everywhere you want to travel in Canberra...its called a car, and if you don't like that then you need to deal with changing buses and sitting on buses like every other person in Canberra...
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Announcements and Guidelines / Re: ACT BUS Updates
« Last post by Sylvan Loves Buses on June 22, 2018, 04:09:44 AM »
Did something change recently, cause I could've sworn i had more than 1 of those yellow squares below my avatar a few days ago? What do the different yellow ones indicate anyway, cause I've noticed a few other members have 2 or three?

Also, still love the Renault fronts for the read/unread indicators, but have you possibly considered doing a bunch for each section of the board? Like having the Renault's for the old bus related boards, CNG or Euro front for modern, Bustech for the more active boards, and a LR and plane front or whatever for the others. Any chances of something along those lines?
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