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The Playground / Re: What bus did you get today?
« Last post by Snorzac on Today at 12:29:33 AM »
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Routes and Timetables / Re: Network 2018
« Last post by Snorzac on Yesterday at 11:33:25 PM »
As I said, the 11/11A is a classic case of if the service is there, people will use it. I got the bus to the airport for a flight this morning and there was about 15 pax on the bus and about 10 had baggage.
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Fleet / Re: 40 new Scanias in 2018
« Last post by Barry Drive on Yesterday at 11:02:39 PM »
From 539 onwards, all buses have been evenly shared between depots. So it's possible that each will get 5 Bustechs and 10 Volgrens. Can't see Belconnen getting more artics than Tuggeranong.
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Routes and Timetables / Re: Network 2018
« Last post by ajw373 on Yesterday at 09:14:48 PM »
Hit the nail on the head...the earliest flight you can currently make based off check in times is an 0715 departure if you really want to push it, this leaves at least 5 flights from one airline alone (plus whatever the opposition offer) not serviced by public transport on a weekday morning, evenings you do not have any service to the only arrival from both Perth and the Gold Coast each day as well as no access to public transport for passengers travelling to or from Canberra on a Singapore Airlines.

You could argue that services on this particular service should operate at earlier hours of the morning or later into the evening but then that raises the issue of what it connects with and whether it is worth operating a service with no connections.

Personally I believe that Canberra  should move to a 24 hour network with hourly to half hour trunk or rapid services connecting with flexible demand responsive area services. Whilst patronage isn't ever going to be high for these services, there is still a need for it in my opinion and this would solve the afformentioned issues with a service to the airport.

Realistically how many people are getting buses to the airport that are flying? I would say not many, most passengers would be working in the airport (though most would drive, or like a mate of mine who works there ride his pushy) or more than likley the business park.
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Fleet / Re: 40 new Scanias in 2018
« Last post by ajw373 on Yesterday at 09:12:33 PM »
Progress report -

Deliveries are about 3 weeks behind the published contract, but there is no urgency for new buses right now.

5 buses in service: 652 - 656 went into service last week (all at Belconnen); no new buses in service this week.

12 further buses are now delivered: (Bustech: ) 643 644 & 647 (Volgren: ) 657 658 659 660 661
662 663 664 & 665

Gather the Volgrens (rigids) are all going to Belconnen and the new Bustechs to Tuggers?

And seeing the Volgrens quite a bit the last week, hard to imagine only 5 are in service, seems more like 60 how often I am seeing them and where. From Gold Creek to the City.
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The Playground / Re: What bus did you get today?
« Last post by Snorzac on Yesterday at 12:36:49 AM »
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Fleet / Re: 40 new Scanias in 2018 / What bus did you get today?
« Last post by Sylvan Loves Buses on July 18, 2018, 11:20:11 PM »
Well, finally got to experience 652 unexpectedly as the 60N that I quickly planned to get on my way out from the quick visit in the Drakeford Vet Clinic.

So my thoughts on the new buses. I can definitely say I like them, they're comfortably built, not too loud engine wise, the seats finally have something different than the Rainforest Falls that have been infecting the Renault's and I don't feel they're too rattly. Up the back it does get a little bumpy, but sitting near the rear door is a comfortable journey. I'm not much of a fan of aboriginal art, but it's nice to finally have something more calming to look at when on an empty bus.


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The Playground / Re: What bus did you get today?
« Last post by King of Buses on July 18, 2018, 07:31:41 PM »
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Routes and Timetables / Re: Network 2018
« Last post by Snorzac on July 18, 2018, 02:15:28 PM »
As they teach you when you work in the airline industry....you cant roster or plan for schedule disruption, if it is a constant issue then it is something that will need to be addressed but there is no way to predict and plan the pattern of say traffic disruptions, etc
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Routes and Timetables / Re: Network 2018
« Last post by Sylvan Loves Buses on July 18, 2018, 01:02:56 PM »
I would certainly vote for 24hr too, I still can't see why they won't. Just gotta wait for them to pull their thumbs out of their butts I guess...

However, the Spence to Belconnen sector of the R3, the Fraser to Kippax sector of the R2, the Calwell to Lanyon section of the R5 and the Watson to Dickson sector of the R9 however won't likely build patronage like this, so I'm more concerned about why these areas need a bus every 10-15 mins all day, when maybe only every second trip could service these sections of the routes

I've been having that same thought too, even now those same sorts of routes (including the 39 during the 3-5pm period) have so many that there's pretty much only half of them with actual patronage on them after/before the Interchanges.

Melbourne trams are a good example of how users automatically opt for the trams when services are frequent. Very often, on week days at least, if you miss a tram the next is already in sight.

Yes of course, but all the trams of a single area are unlikely to run 20 minutes late every single day at the same period due to the use of their own roads. This is another of the issues I see with the fact of when these busy roads getting held up due to accidents, works, full buses or/and the driver arriving to start the route late from the previous route. The problem there will be that there'd be several of those 10 minute frequency buses all within a minute or two of each other when they get away again. Of course this doesn't happen all the time, but I feel it's something the govenrment doesn't think too much about when it does. I finally got around to watching that parliament meeting about the discussion for this project, and this did not come up in the discussion.
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