When training buses go to the Sutton Road training facility, do they have to take off their bike-racks since the buses would now be in New South Wales land/road?
And why is there these whingers on Twitter who can't help but say absolutely negative things about ACTION buses? They offer absolutely no hint of suggestion and just make PT in Canberra look like it's completely bad and non inviting which makes other people who are anyway against PT completely not attracted to catching PT in Canberra whether they are locals in cars or visiting tourists. I'm sick of one account in particular, for its crap loaded comments regarding PT, and its un-constructive stance on Light Rail in Canberra. If this account continues to do what they are doing, I will alert Twitter to this as I am sick of their nutty whinging and their negative stance to all PT in Canberra.
The Sutton Road facility is entirely within the ACT.
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As for reporting @canberradavid to Twitter, they won't do anything. His opinions are moronic but they're not breaking any rules.
You can block or mute people so you don't see their tweets.
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It's finally taken me this long to remind myself to use the fleet wiki here to develop my bus book for this year. So yeh, for the first time I'm now refering to the wiki, instead of my unknown knowledge of trying to decide what's stored, and what's actually gone in the Woden Depot.
Anyway, I've been going through the list, and when I saw that big gap in the PR2s, I shed a tear, 881, 882, 883, then 890 :'( I really have been missing a lot. Then the PR3s, and then the darts and Irises. So passing that area (and checking all the new numbers) I remembered a few questions that I had thought about asking for a little while, and stumbled upon something questionable.
1. Apart from the 1 Dart that's been decommisioned, is it really true that only 8 of them are being used at the moment (even though you'd only at most see 3 of them on the roads)? Also, which one is the white one?
2. Can't remember which one it was (127 or 128), but can someone tell me what it got hit with, or who it ran into, by any chance?
3. What happened to 319s Big Merv name? It's no longer on the back (last time I saw it).
4. Lastly, I was going down the list checking all the E5s, E6s, etc all the numbers, when I stumbled on 490. I had a look, and it says it's not in service, but it's not decommisioned. Is this true? Does ACTION really still have 490 (but never uses it)?
1. Yes, only eight in use. The white one is ex 132
2. One of them collided with a car at Josephson/Cohen years back before the lights were installed, if that's what you're referring to. I think there's a photo in the gallery.
3. Probably came off - maybe stuck to some advertising.
4. 490 is the suspected fleet number of a new demonstrator that's not in service yet.
Quote from: Buzz Killington on January 14, 2016, 08:01:57 AM
2. One of them collided with a car at Josephson/Cohen years back before the lights were installed, if that's what you're referring to. I think there's a photo in the gallery.
Fairly sure that's not what he's referring to. (Although yes, it was 128 which collected a car at Josephson St)
The answer to the question -
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on January 14, 2016, 07:22:11 AM
can someone tell me what it got hit with, or who it ran into, by any chance?
is "no."
Quote from: Buzz Killington on January 08, 2016, 08:22:06 PM
As for reporting @canberradavid to Twitter, they won't do anything. His opinions are moronic but they're not breaking any rules.
I have a strong suspicion that @CanberraDavid is a fake account set up by Alistair Coe. They make the same amount of sense, and neither can put together a coherent argument.
He might be referring to the partially smashed windscreen and damaged bike rack of 127 at Woden. In which case, I have no clue what happened to it.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on January 14, 2016, 07:22:11 AM
4. Lastly, I was going down the list checking all the E5s, E6s, etc all the numbers, when I stumbled on 490. I had a look, and it says it's not in service, but it's not decommisioned. Is this true? Does ACTION really still have 490 (but never uses it)?
Bus 490
(2) was scrapped for parts at DYSONS Victoria. In case you didn't know:
QuoteSince many fleet numbers have been re-used, a sequence number will be included for each time the number has been used (e.g. BUS 350 (2) )
--From the Fleetwiki so it's easier for everyone to access information on buses they want to know more about without having to go to another page with the same bus fleet number on it but which operated at a different point in time.
Quote from: Barry Drive on January 14, 2016, 11:28:16 AM
I have a strong suspicion that @CanberraDavid is a fake account set up by Alistair Coe. They make the same amount of sense, and neither can put together a coherent argument.
That could be right - in one of @CanberraDaivd's tweets, [the person who tweets on that account] says they support a BRT. I'm guessing that stands for Bus Rapid Transit. Is this something Alistair Coe supports?
If so, ...
Quote from: Bus 503 on January 14, 2016, 05:27:41 PM
That could be right - in one of @CanberraDaivd's tweets, [the person who tweets on that account] says they support a BRT. I'm guessing that stands for Bus Rapid Transit. Is this something Alistair Coe supports?
If so, ...
Does this person go on and on about dead running too? If so then yeah probably that waste of space Coe, or more to the point a staffer.
Sorry, still trying to get accostomed to the way you refer to duplicates.
Quote from: Bus 503 on January 14, 2016, 05:27:41 PM
Bus 490 (2) was scrapped for parts at DYSONS Victoria. In case you didn't know
That's the white one right?
Ooh, just remembered something else.
Again with the bus crash topic, what happened to Iris 317? I know it was gone for sometime, and whenever I asked thedrivers, they didn't know.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on January 15, 2016, 09:40:47 AM
Sorry, still trying to get accostomed to the way you refer to duplicates.
That's the white one right?
Ooh, just remembered something else.
Again with the bus crash topic, what happened to Iris 317? I know it was gone for sometime, and whenever I asked thedrivers, they didn't know.
Correct.
In 2013, Bus 528 (SR823) smahed into Bus 317 (SR558) on Monaro Crescent. Bus 528's windscreen was shattered, and the end of Bus 317 was also badly damaged. That is most probably the cause of Bus 317's back lights now having been changed to LEDs, and a visible back engine pipe which looks quite new in which can be seen if you look at the back of Bus 317.
Well that explains why it was off-service for so long, thx.
Another few things, from what I noticed yesterday.
1. I saw bus 344, and it has both black and white numbering on the front, like 343s inside, I know ACTION use to put up the white stick-ons back when the Scanias were new, so what's goig on now, isn't one set of numbers enough anymore? ???
I thought there was something else...
2. oh yeh, what's been happening at Woden Inter the past few days? I haven't been out very much, and ACTIONs email alerts is useless, can someone tell me what was happening yesterday with the leftovers of the construction where the whole was dug? From what I noticed, the inbound routes had to go around to the layover to come in, so what about the Intertowns? Were they still going through there? Cause the path looked really tight for aritcs.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on January 19, 2016, 01:51:40 PM
Another few things, from what I noticed yesterday.
1. I saw bus 344, and it has both black and white numbering on the front, like 343s inside, I know ACTION use to put up the white stick-ons back when the Scanias were new, so what's goig on now, isn't one set of numbers enough anymore? ???
I thought there was something else...
2. oh yeh, what's been happening at Woden Inter the past few days? I haven't been out very much, and ACTIONs email alerts is useless, can someone tell me what was happening yesterday with the leftovers of the construction where the whole was dug? From what I noticed, the inbound routes had to go around to the layover to come in, so what about the Intertowns? Were they still going through there? Cause the path looked really tight for aritcs.
Regarding 344, I see no logical reason for both. Probably received a new windscreen and fleet numbers were applied before it was fitted to the bus because they probably thought it was a CB60 EVOII or a CB80 where the fleet no goes on the windscreen,
As for Woden, no changes to departures or arrival platform. Buses serving 8, 9 and 10 travelling on the far right of the roadway to get around fencing. Buses to platform 11 to 19 travel via the Bowes St Layover on theit way in, outbound journeys are still travelling normally. Work should be complete soon and operations at that end of the bus station will be back to how they were before they did work down that end.
I just wanted to ask, as I don't really know that much about it, other than what I have seen, but would I be right in guessing that on Constitution Ave, the reason the bitumen on the northbound side is red, is because Constitution Ave is going to have both a traffic lane, and a bus lane, or is it just that "red is the new black"?
Well, they're not painting it red for the hell of it.
Here's a good question that just came to mind that my mum hates, and I've been wondering for some time...
Why the hell do the new buses (E6/Artic) not have back windows? It is extremely incovenient!
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on February 02, 2016, 07:31:18 PM
Here's a good question that just came to mind that my mum hates, and I've been wondering for some time...
Why the hell do the new buses (E6/Artic) not have back windows? It is extremely incovenient!
Because it is not a legal requirement anymore, it isn't part of the CB80 design (nor Volgren, Bustech, etc. designs) and hence not on the CB80 buses of ACTION.
Quote from: Buzz Killington on January 22, 2016, 10:02:29 PM
Well, they're not painting it red for the hell of it.
Guess not. I actually rode down the whole strip of it yesterday coming back from RATEC, (at a time where surprisingly not a single car/bus came up from behind me), and yeh, the red is just the pre-surface, as it was lower from the initial height from where the kerb is sitting.
Quote from: King of Buses on February 02, 2016, 07:45:32 PM
Because it is not a legal requirement anymore
Wow... so that was once apon a time a requirement because of the PRs having the emergency window at the back or something?
^ I believe so.
Rear windows have never been a legal requirement. How many coaches have you seen with them?
Quote from: The Love Guru on February 02, 2016, 09:24:07 PM
Rear windows have never been a legal requirement. How many coaches have you seen with them?
Touchè
There was some purpose though. It has been mentioned on this forum before...don't know where though or what it actually is...
I was just surfing the random image button on the gallery when a few more questions popped into mind concerning the PR3s.
1. With the few that had the doors opening outwards (127-131 I seem to recal), was there any particular reason why they had them like that, or/and why ACTION only bought those few?
2. I had never caught it to my knowledge till some time after I started looking at the identity numbers on the buses, but why was 113 on the inside at the front different from all the others (looking like the new buses do with the side-way seats)?
3. and why was it all replaced to look like a standard PR3 with wierd seats that had never been used before?
4. Also, why were the last 7 numbered at a completely different range (993-999) instead of continuing from 157 or something? Are (*were) those particular PR3s a different mark like the PR2s too?
5. Lastly, (and this is something I've always wondered about with both the PR3s and Darts), why is the bottom half of the chassis grey instead of being completely light blue like the PR2s?
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on February 04, 2016, 08:21:19 PM
I was just surfing the random image button on the gallery when a few more questions popped into mind concerning the PR3s.
1. With the few that had the doors opening outwards (127-131 I seem to recal), was there any particular reason why they had them like that, or/and why ACTION only bought those few?
2. I had never caught it to my knowledge till some time after I started looking at the identity numbers on the buses, but why was 113 on the inside at the front different from all the others (looking like the new buses do with the side-way seats)?
3. and why was it all replaced to look like a standard PR3 with wierd seats that had never been used before?
4. Also, why were the last 7 numbered at a completely different range (993-999) instead of continuing from 157 or something? Are (*were) those particular PR3s a different mark like the PR2s too?
5. Lastly, (and this is something I've always wondered about with both the PR3s and Darts), why is the bottom half of the chassis grey instead of being completely light blue like the PR2s?
1. 126 to 131. They were Renault PR100.3a buses. They were easy access and had outwards opening doors like darts.
2/3. 113 IIRC is hard to tell apart from any other .3 now. 129 has non standard Vogel seats at the front following the conversion from .3a to .3. There was a few other oddities too I think.
4.990 to 999 came before 100-131 and the darts. Hence they followed on from Renault PR180.2 artics 989.
5.Bottom half of the body you mean? Just a livery change. Happens all the time. Plus 674 had the grey skirting and they then implemented it for the .3s and darts.
1000th post on the forum!!!!! ;D :P 8) >:D
Sylvan Loves Buses, if you're wondering about PR100.3's, I recommend this thread - http://www.actbus.net/forum/index.php?topic=3303.msg31149#msg31149
100.3's have the grey skirting around the bottom as the design of the body was based on the design of the R312 Paris Bus. The front, dash etc is actually from the R312 Paris Bus.
@KoB
1. Yes of course, 126. Sorry It's hard to remember as I haven't been on those for so long, and they've been deconmissioning them so frequently, it's hard to remember all the specifics now.
2./3. What's IIRC? and any futher info about that by any chance anywhere?
4. Hmm, that is very interesting, ty
5. Just a normal change, ok thank you, just still looks wierd to me, thats all ;)
Also, congrantz on your 1000th post!
@Bus503 - Dosn't answer all my questions, and was a little hard to follow, but thanks, there's a few interesting things there. Would that be the area on the forum to find anything else out?
skirting, another new word I'll have to try and remember.
Oh and speaking of words to remember, what do you guys call the bus stop sign posts?
Thanks guys!
IIRC - if I recall correctly
Bus stop signs - the upright rectangular shaped ones are blades. The ones in the shape of a regular street sign (now mostly, if not completely replaced) are fingerboards. Wooden posts are pegs, and the slim orange ones are bollards
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on February 04, 2016, 08:21:19 PM
2. I had never caught it to my knowledge till some time after I started looking at the identity numbers on the buses, but why was 113 on the inside at the front different from all the others (looking like the new buses do with the side-way seats)?
3. and why was it all replaced to look like a standard PR3 with wierd seats that had never been used before?
4. Also, why were the last 7 numbered at a completely different range (993-999) instead of continuing from 157 or something? Are (*were) those particular PR3s a different mark like the PR2s
113 was originally a PR100.3 but was converted to a PR100.3a prototype. (Hence why the curved entrance is relatively steep - it replaced stairs). The other .3a buses followed later.
990-991 were converted from PR100.3 to PR100.3NGV (running on gas) and then back again. 992-995 from memory have an identical chassis to the PR100.2, but obviously have the PR100.3 body. 996-999 are the same as their 100 series sister units.
113 features normal glide away doors but has no steps and kneels every time the doors open.
It may look the same from outside, but body-wise it's unique.
For more details, refer to the featured bus article (http://actbus.net/featured-bus-march-2011/) on 113.
Notices have appeared on the ACTION website for the following:
- Route 2 northbound to depart from City Platform 2 from Monday
- Route 57 to be diverted away from the top end of Franklin from Monday due to roadworks
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So those extra seats at Platform 2 *were* put there for a reason. I was wondering.
Also means you can count out any network upgrade for at least 6 months. My guess is feb'17
I was thinking Term 4, maybe. But you can't rush these things.
Just looked at the updates myself, but the one I can't understand is the Corrina Street one, could someone pinpoint on Google maps where the new position is please, cause I can't find anywhere that shows what it's saying.
Basically where the foot path towards the IPA Building is where the new stop is.
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Line markings on Furzer and Corrina St have been changed - basically giving buses a lot more room to turn.
For the first time in ages, ACTION aren't running any show specials this year. https://www.action.act.gov.au/news/whatson/take-action-to-the-2016-royal-canberra-show
Why take the inconvenience of having to swap buses with tired kids & show bags. When for $5 you can park & only have to walk a bit down the track.
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Wow, that's lame. I thought ACTION enjoyed using their artics...
anyway, I found out where the buses are going in Woden, mainly cause I nearly got hit by one when I was riding through one of the roads, it was unexpected cause I didn't know at the time 8).
Yeh, so the buses are going along that road where some drivers back in the day (15 years ago) would go with their dart buses, just to be cheeky to save time at the intersections >:D
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on February 13, 2016, 10:57:26 AM
Wow, that's lame. I thought ACTION enjoyed using their artics...
There are some running today on the 900(a), so I think most of them are going to Woden and back.
Quote from: Bus 503 on February 13, 2016, 12:44:09 PM
There are some running today on the 900(a), so I think most of them are going to Woden and back.
Artics are doing supplementary 900 an 950 services between the timetabled services. The 900s are only Woden to Belconnen, yes.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on February 13, 2016, 10:57:26 AM
Yeh, so the buses are going along that road where some drivers back in the day (15 years ago) would go with their dart buses, just to be cheeky to save time at the intersections >:D
..what?
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on February 13, 2016, 10:57:26 AM
Wow, that's lame. I thought ACTION enjoyed using their artics...
anyway, I found out where the buses are going in Woden, mainly cause I nearly got hit by one when I was riding through one of the roads, it was unexpected cause I didn't know at the time 8).
Yeh, so the buses are going along that road where some drivers back in the day (15 years ago) would go with their dart buses, just to be cheeky to save time at the intersections >:D
15 years ago huh. You know, how you recall them doing that from your mother's womb.
Well it was the odd driver who did it, I remember seeing a few, including one time I was meeting my mum at the Corinna Street bus stop, and the dart 62 bus came from behind the library instead of around from Melrose Drive.
@The Love Guru, I'm 20 btw, and is that sort of comment really necessary?
I noticed something odd yesterday while I was out on the buses. What is that that is sitting on the front part of the bus on the roof of (i think it was) Bus 946?
So I've seen bus 490 (which I will be calling 490.2 now), caught a glance of it as it passed me going into B depot last week, 'she' was driving it too quickly for me to get a good glance at it to draw it, but I have seen it now, and have a faint memory of it in my mind. The windows at the back are what's getting me atm with the design. Anyway, I really do want to draw it, and I doubt I'll see it again unless I bother to make my way (accidentally on purpose) to Belconnen again to try and find it. So instead, could someone post here for me (if you can), 3 pics of it please. One of the door side, front and the roof (if possible).
ty.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on February 23, 2016, 07:53:46 PM
I noticed something odd yesterday while I was out on the buses. What is that that is sitting on the front part of the bus on the roof of (i think it was) Bus 946?
So I've seen bus 490 (which I will be calling 490.2 now), caught a glance of it as it passed me going into B depot last week, 'she' was driving it too quickly for me to get a good glance at it to draw it, but I have seen it now, and have a faint memory of it in my mind. The windows at the back are what's getting me atm with the design. Anyway, I really do want to draw it, and I doubt I'll see it again unless I bother to make my way (accidentally on purpose) to Belconnen again to try and find it. So instead, could someone post here for me (if you can), 3 pics of it please. One of the door side, front and the roof (if possible).
ty.
There are some photos of 490 on the ACTBus Photo page. Possibly the wiki/gallery too. Doesn't cover all angles I think though...
EDIT: Actually does show all sides...
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on February 23, 2016, 07:53:46 PM
I noticed something odd yesterday while I was out on the buses. What is that that is sitting on the front part of the bus on the roof of (i think it was) Bus 946?
Not sure if this is what you are taking about but 946 has different roof hatches that stand out more. Never been in it but think they are electronically controlled. It's been like that since new or shortly thereafter.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on February 23, 2016, 07:53:46 PM
So I've seen bus 490 (which I will be calling 490.2 now), caught a glance of it as it passed me going into B depot last week, 'she' was driving it too quickly for me to get a good glance at it to draw it, but I have seen it now, and have a faint memory of it in my mind. The windows at the back are what's getting me atm with the design. Anyway, I really do want to draw it, and I doubt I'll see it again unless I bother to make my way (accidentally on purpose) to Belconnen again to try and find it. So instead, could someone post here for me (if you can), 3 pics of it please. One of the door side, front and the roof (if possible).
ty.
I have taken a few photos of the bus - hope these shots help:
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1469/25184389196_a3983b6a74_k.jpg)
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1617/25092456642_0211b784a7_k.jpg)
In other 490 news, if you were wondering where it was today, it ran an early morning route 7, followed by a route 39.
I'm also sure 490's back number plate has been changed. It now features that 'dot' in the centre of the plate, in between the words: Bus (and) 490.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on February 23, 2016, 07:53:46 PM
I noticed something odd yesterday while I was out on the buses. What is that that is sitting on the front part of the bus on the roof of (i think it was) Bus 946?
Can you be any more vague? (Although I probably have an idea what you're referring to - but it would be found on ALL of the Renault PR100.2s, not just 946.)
Quote from: ajw373 on February 23, 2016, 08:26:48 PM
Not sure if this is what you are taking about but 946 has different roof hatches that stand out more. Never been in it but think they are electronically controlled. It's been like that since new or shortly thereafter.
Correct. They are a trial Beclawat roof hatch. They are still manually opened - a bit like the ones found in all the Custom Coaches bodies (although, I hasten to add, those are not Beclawat).
Quote from: Bus 503 on February 23, 2016, 09:03:12 PM
I'm also sure 490's back number plate has been changed. It now features that 'dot' in the centre of the plate, in between the words: Bus (and) 490.
Also correct. 490 has had new plates fitted. On the old front plate, you could see where the CNG tag was fitted for the former 490.
What the hell? what happens to my comments I made last night? wha? ???...
As for the thing on top of 946, Im not talking about the hatches, I'm talking about right at the very front, like at the very edge of it. I was sitting in one of the bus shelters at the time, so I couldn't get a good glimpse, but It looks about the same size as one of those car dashboard 'bobble-heads', but it wasn't moving, it was just sitting there, might have been glued on or something...
946 Roof hatches:
I know what the hatches look like, what I'm asking about is right here, right in front of the metal thing that also sits at the front, it was almost as if it was going to fall off, but it was stuck there
T mechanics have a habit of sticking stuffed/plastic toys on the buses.
Quote from: The Love Guru on February 25, 2016, 07:50:23 PM
T mechanics have a habit of sticking stuffed/plastic toys on the buses.
And names...
Even though they've been showing on NXTBUS since last year, two bus stops on Grampians St (Palmerston) will officially enter use from Monday.
Hospital Road in Garran reopens on Monday, so things will be back to normal there after almost a year of diverted routes.
It will only be open in one direction - south to north. Southbound will remain closed until 30 June (or later).
AFAIK the bus diversions will continue.
Hey, I saw red tape crossed over the Woden Interchange's office door today, what's going on? anyone know?
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on March 01, 2016, 09:55:21 PM
Hey, I saw red tape crossed over the Woden Interchange's office door today, what's going on? anyone know?
Well, in case anyone
doesn't know, I asked at the interchange just coming home just now. They're doing some repairs and removals/maintenance in the office for the next for days or week or something. Nothing (I think) to do with the asbestos removal this time, just some general maintenance. The Transport Officer I was talking to however told me that if they 'had' the money to do it now,
now would've actually been the closure of the office for knocking it down :(.
So for anyone who needs help, they're gonna have a hard time, esp. the little old ladies I often see there who come to complain about things... - (including raging about their buses being 5 minutes late...
oh wait, that's me ::))
Mackillop opening school mass is tomorrow morning. I expect it'll be mass artic charter as usual from Tuggeranong about 1100ish.
Old artics?
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on March 10, 2016, 07:05:53 AM
Old artics?
Given ACTION only have one 'old artic' and it is still at Woden in a condition not exactly presentable for service, no. Just the usual Scania artics.
:'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(
Hi, just a few quick questions about the darts,
1. What is that thing on the roof at the rear end of the bus - in the same spot as the P2s exhaust pipe?
2. I've been told by one of the drives who's been driving for ACTION for many years, that the reason they haven't sold-off/scrapped/rid-of the darts yet, is because there's still $1.2 million worth of assets. Could someone give me a few examples (that they know of) of some of those 'assets'?
3. I still remember the time they had the ads on the side calling them 'Midi buses', which is what my mum and I still call them, but was there an actual reference for the word 'midi'?
4. I still find the concept of the different mks with the P2s confusion, but was there an actual reason for the different productions of the darts, why there's differences between 132-142 and 143-156 (or whatever the grouping is)?
5. Where is Dennis Dart from, and did they make any other buses?
6. How much do you think ACTION would sell one without an engine so I could keep it as a statue in my garden?
That'll do for now, I'll ask some more later.
Question 5, a simple google search will answer your question. But for the record Dennis is from the UK, now part of Alexander Dennis (the company that purchased Custom Coaches a few years back, before then putting them into administration) and they made lots of other buses and trucks over the years.
The body work is not by Dennis, it came from Wrightbus in Northern Ireland and is called the crusader.
Question 1, think you will find it is an air intake. Not sure if it is to bring air into the engine bay or if it feeds the engine directly.
ty, I'll have a look into that.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on March 22, 2016, 01:24:25 AM
Hi, just a few quick questions about the darts,
1. What is that thing on the roof at the rear end of the bus - in the same spot as the P2s exhaust pipe?
2. I've been told by one of the drives who's been driving for ACTION for many years, that the reason they haven't sold-off/scrapped/rid-of the darts yet, is because there's still $1.2 million worth of assets. Could someone give me a few examples (that they know of) of some of those 'assets'?
3. I still remember the time they had the ads on the side calling them 'Midi buses', which is what my mum and I still call them, but was there an actual reference for the word 'midi'?
4. I still find the concept of the different mks with the P2s confusion, but was there an actual reason for the different productions of the darts, why there's differences between 132-142 and 143-156 (or whatever the grouping is)?
5. Where is Dennis Dart from, and did they make any other buses?
6. How much do you think ACTION would sell one without an engine so I could keep it as a statue in my garden?
That'll do for now, I'll ask some more later.
2. They're still serviceable? (well most of them) Either way, parting them all out gives a lot of money parts-wise. Will save them a lot if they utilitise them.
3. (Quoting a quote from another thread) "3/4 the bus, 3/4 the fuel, 3/4 the cost!"...as well as...
Quote from: Ed on July 19, 2011, 11:31:00 PM
3/4 the cost my arse!
They're a smaller bus, but not a 'mini' bus like a Coaster or a Rosa. Midi just fits in somehow...
4. Different internal layout in the PR100.2s and livery (same as PR180.2s) is why there are the different 'marks'. They're much the same underneath though. As with the Darts, I don't know...
6. Ask ACTION...though it'd be nice to have a running dart still when they all disappear just for the fun of it :P
There was one set of Darts that had a white interior and others that had dark grey. The seats at the front were reconfigured at some point too. From memory there used to be a backwards facing fold-down seat up front that was replaced with a permanent one. I used to get a Dart for my school bus each arvo way back in 1998 but haven't caught them much in recent years.
Yeah, they had the fold up seats for quite some time, I remember that, and I do know about the grey/white panelled buses, (which is what the question is referring to), as there's actually 2 ways to determine those particular buses - one is the panel above the driver, the other is the placement of the side desto. (drawing below) Recently I wouldn't know either, as most of them I've only seen in Woden Depot (including the one facing an odd direction at the entrance).
Re Reply 68. Rode Dart 148 Thurs 24th March 2016 on rte 3 leaving Belconnen just after 9am. It had a fold up backwards facing seat on LH side at luggage bin.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on March 22, 2016, 01:24:25 AM
6. How much do you think ACTION would sell one without an engine so I could keep it as a statue in my garden?
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1996-DENNIS-CRUSADER-28-SEAT-BUS-/291699044264?hash=item43ea9e2fa8%3Ag%3AHOgAAOSwmmxW6kC5 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1996-DENNIS-CRUSADER-28-SEAT-BUS-/291699044264?hash=item43ea9e2fa8%3Ag%3AHOgAAOSwmmxW6kC5)
You could buy 132 for display in your garden...if you sell the garden! ::)
Lol, it's availble on Ebay hahahahahaha!!!!!!!!
(edit) holy damn, $19k :-\ that's more than a pre-owned artic :O
well, to be honest, I'd rather this
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/bus/252320732000?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140117125611%26meid%3Dc1db711403fc4861b467b25746681d78%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D10%26mehot%3Dpp%26sd%3D291699044264
and then paint it blue and orange xD instead of blue with a red stripe :P
Just remembered, I thought up a few questions/inquiries on the way home today. More like bus spec questions.
1. Does the PR in PR:100.2/3 and CB in the CB40/60 stand for anything, if so what?
2. What exactly does the 100 and 180 mean on the PR:100.2s and PR:100.3s? Is it what I always originally thought where it referred to the size of the bus, where 100 was a full size bus, and 180 was 1+80% of a full (that's the front carriage + the back with the concertinas), or is it something completely different?
3. with the .2 and .3 (PR:100s), dose that refer to it being the different 'version', 'generation', 'model', or??
4. Also, will the new 490.2 ever come to Tuggeranong, or is it just being trialled at Belconnen on what I think is a flow shift?
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on April 02, 2016, 08:42:00 PM
1. Does the PR in PR:100.2/3 and CB in the CB40/60 stand for anything, if so what?
I can't tell you what 'PR' stands for, although 'CB' means 'Custom Body' I think.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on April 02, 2016, 08:42:00 PM
4. Also, will the new 490.2 ever come to Tuggeranong, or is it just being trialled at Belconnen on what I think is a flow shift?
To be more specific, it would be '490.3' not '490.2'. To the question - I doubt it will go to Tuggeranong. Bus 490 is replacing Bus 300 (which was based at Belconnen Depot before its 'incident'.) To put it in simple terms, Bus 490 is replacing a bus which was formerly based at Belconnen Depot, so it wouldn't seem right to have it operating from Tuggeranong Depot.
Why is the sky blue? Why is water wet? Why are there 24 hours in a day?
I am reminded of Mr Garrison from South Park.
https://youtu.be/x-rGhMQn9Ls
Just like in their lifetime, the Irisbus could be swapped for the diesel Scania/MAN/Renault (Tuggy bricks do have a storage space for 10 extra buses). So there would be nothing stopping 490 being swapped for another CB80 bodied Tuggy bus (just to keep the body numbers even as per an upcoming Transport Canberra rule).
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Quote from: Bus 400 on April 02, 2016, 09:13:43 PM
So there would be nothing stopping 490 being swapped for another CB80 bodied Tuggy bus (just to keep the body numbers even as per an upcoming Transport Canberra rule).
They apparently 'must' train drivers to drive 490. I doubt they'd move it to T if they continue to maintain the training rule for 490 - it'll be easier for them to just use the current B trained drivers with it and be done with it. This is also why 490 doesn't go out on weekends - drivers trained to drive it are either not working or are just allocated a standard EURO for consistency. Plus they probably don't want to damage the thing given they had trouble even putting stickers on it...
Quote from: Bus 503 on April 02, 2016, 08:59:26 PM'CB' means 'Custom Body' I think.
Oh yes, of course, thank you.
Quote from: Bus 503 on April 02, 2016, 08:59:26 PMTo be more specific, it would be '490.3' not '490.2'.
Well as I may have mentioned a few weeks ago, as I have only lived and seen 2 490s,
I would be calling it 490.2 (it's just the way I do things, to make it simpler). Yeah, I know it's the 3rd (as I've seen on the wiki, and from Ed telling me), but it's how
I will be doing it. (I've only told one other forum user this), just to lt you know though, I've only known about the identity numbers on the buses since about 2007, so even though I do know all the numbers, I will still have my own way of addressing them.
Also, I was a bit sceptical about the whole 490 thing when it was first introduced, I had at one point tried to completely ignore the whole situation, and try to think of a new number for it, but after reading other comments, and getting told by Ed about it, I decided to call it (just for my own use) 490.2, as that's what I have called it in my bus book.
Please, don't get hyped up about it though, it's just a bus number.
Quote from: Bus 503 on April 02, 2016, 08:59:26 PMBus 490 is replacing Bus 300 (which was based at Belconnen Depot before its 'incident'.) To put it in simple terms, Bus 490 is replacing a bus which was formerly based at Belconnen Depot, so it wouldn't seem right to have it operating from Tuggeranong Depot.
Hmm, that's very interesting to know, thank you again.
@Barry Drive - why do you and The Love Guru have to be such bullies? it's not very nice you know, and I did not join here to be disrespected in such a manner. I've tried to be as nice as possible, respect the forum rules to the best of my ability, learn from any mistakes I make from comments I have made on any posts, and try to enjoy being in the community with people who have the same hobby as mine. I had looked for a forum/social place like this with people I share the same hobby with for almost 17 years, and I have almost been here a year now, but I haven't felt very welcome... Please, can you stop having such a grudge against me, and stop mocking me, what have I ever done to you? - Just cause I have said things that you 100% disagree with, or something that is not right in your/everyone else's minds, it isn't right to act so disagreeably.
It's called life, my friend. Get used to it.
If you can't handle being mocked you should really question what you are doing on the Internet in the first place.
You ask me to respect you and your strange ways, yet in return offer no respect to my ways.
As the T shirt says: "Sarcasm is just one of the services I offer".
Just looking at the other post about 490 reminded me of something.
What happens to the trial buses after ACTION has finished with them?
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on April 03, 2016, 03:17:43 AM
@Barry Drive - why do you and The Love Guru have to be such bullies? it's not very nice you know, and I did not join here to be disrespected in such a manner. I've tried to be as nice as possible, respect the forum rules to the best of my ability, learn from any mistakes I make from comments I have made on any posts, and try to enjoy being in the community with people who have the same hobby as mine. I had looked for a forum/social place like this with people I share the same hobby with for almost 17 years, and I have almost been here a year now, but I haven't felt very welcome... Please, can you stop having such a grudge against me, and stop mocking me, what have I ever done to you? - Just cause I have said things that you 100% disagree with, or something that is not right in your/everyone else's minds, it isn't right to act so disagreeably.
Unfortunately in life, not everyone is going to be your friend and when you put yourself out to the world with strange ideas and habits, well the world is going to tell you what it thinks of you.
As Barry says above, It's called life, my friend, perhaps you should get one.
215-209 on City - Majura Park shuttles today. According to Twitter, Route 910 is not accessing Majura Park due to heavy traffic associated with the Airport's open day.
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Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on April 03, 2016, 01:20:58 PM
What happens to the trial buses after ACTION has finished with them?
Now that's a slightly more intelligent question. Only slightly.
When ACTION has finished with them, they go elsewhere.
Quote from: Barry Drive on April 03, 2016, 03:28:58 PM
When ACTION has finished with them, they go elsewhere.
While that is indeed true, I'd suggest that you take a look at the wiki
Sylvan. On the individual pages for trial buses, for example, Bus 490 (2), it generally mentions the 'next stop' for a certain bus (if known) just like with most other withdrawn vehicles. That *may* provide a better answer to your question by using examples such as that.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on April 03, 2016, 01:20:58 PM
What happens to the trial buses after ACTION has finished with them?
The bus travels back to the manufactures office where it is examined and a decision is made regarding whether the trial was successful or not. It is then up to the manufacturer to make a decision regarding what happens to the bus.
In the case of 490 (2), it was scrapped for parts after being examined at the SCANIA head office in Victoria.
Quote from: Bus 503 on April 03, 2016, 03:58:54 PM
The bus travels back to the manufactures office where it is examined and a decision is made regarding whether the trial was successful or not. It is then up to the manufacturer to make a decision regarding what happens to the bus.
Perhaps more so in recent years, but that hasn't always been the case. Often they'd go straight on to another operator.
Thank you Bus 503
Quote from: Barry Drive on April 03, 2016, 03:28:58 PMNow that's a slightly more intelligent question. Only slightly.
Shouldn't have to remind you...
Quote from: Sylvan Loves BusesWell, I've been wanting to learn as much as I can, it's hard to be the great buses expert (which is my email >:D) when I'm not really compared to all the other bus enthusiasts here, due to the fact that I've been loving, collecting, and studying buses (mainly ACTION) for the past 17 years, but had only my brain, my eyes, and other drivers as my resources. You could say that I'm the "offline" buses expert ;D , which is why I'm trying to get "online" to learn and improve from what I've lost out on.
What I said there was basically a brief description of how I've had to deal with things throughout my life. Sure, maybe my questions are not so intelligent, but it's not like I can just answer them myself. I have learning difficulties, I do not own a mobile device, I've only had access to the Internet from home for 18 months, I want to know the things I should've already known about for the past 17 years, but as I don't, I have to ask - I could just go back to what I was doing before I signed up at this forum, using my My Way connection to feed me info on pretty much the same sort of stuff I have been asking here, but I won't cause I would only get 1 or 2 or my 10-15 fortnightly questions answered, so I gave up on it. You guys are much more knowledgeable, so that's why I have been hanging around here, with the 'real ACTION bus experts'.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves BusesYou learn something new everyday :popping: :popping: :popping:
And I still wish to. I even learned something new on Friday from this real great driver I've just met, it just slipped from the discussion, but it was something I had wondered about for 17+ years, and was answered for me, such a relief - I was going to ask it here, but I wasn't sure that I was going to get an answer, cause I spent 3 hours on the gallery looking for an appropriate picture to go along with it, but had no luck... Maybe I
should do that instead, maybe I should use him as a recourse now so I don't have to get constantly, unnecessarily abused here when I want to know something...
Quote from: Barry DriveAnd I always call Hamburgers "steamed hams", but that doesn't make it the correct name.
Before you blocked that post I was gonna say one last thing to it. "cool, I have no issue with that, I have had a few friends in the past who use to do the same, blah blah blah..." I won't go on, cause that discussion was stupid.
Would you like me to go on?
Has anyone seen 144 lately? I haven't seen it at Belconnen Depot when I go to Cohen St Bus Station on weekends for ages, plus I haven't seen it on the road nor on Transittimes. There is usually just 145 and 147 plus space for another bus in the shed - but it is never filled (except occasionally by 450 on two separate weekends :-\ ) Is 144 perhaps in for (a fair bit of) maintenance? Or is it just hiding from me?
Quote from: King of Buses on April 10, 2016, 07:09:44 PM
Has anyone seen 144 lately? I haven't seen it at Belconnen Depot when I go to Cohen St Bus Station on weekends for ages, plus I haven't seen it on the road nor on Transittimes. There is usually just 145 and 147 plus space for another bus in the shed - but it is never filled (except occasionally by 450 on two separate weekends :-\ ) Is 144 perhaps in for (a fair bit of) maintenance? Or is it just hiding from me?
I was going to mention this but it totally slipped my mind, on either Tues or Wedneday morning when my bus went past Woden Depot, there was a Dart sitting on a moving tow truck- I'm not sure if it was arriving, leaving, or just being moved, and didn't get a chance to check the fleet number.
Could this have been 144?
Quote from: Busfanatic101 on April 10, 2016, 08:06:31 PM
I was going to mention this but it totally slipped my mind, on either Tues or Wedneday morning when my bus went past Woden Depot, there was a Dart sitting on a moving tow truck- I'm not sure if it was arriving, leaving, or just being moved, and didn't get a chance to check the fleet number.
Could this have been 144?
144 isn't at Woden. This would've been 146 inconveniently being moved from next to 853 and 818 to behind 986...
though that was 148?
and i could've sworn i saw 144 last week on the roads, but doing a T shift
Quote from: Barry Drive on February 10, 2016, 04:38:05 PM
I was thinking Term 4, maybe. But you can't rush these things.
Doesn't really help much, but ACTION have recently said this:
something's been bugging me for years now about the Irises, and I want to get it right now.
Is it;
Agoraline
Agorline
Algoraline
Algorline
or?
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on May 06, 2016, 04:31:39 PM
something's been bugging me for years now about the Irises, and I want to get it right now.
Is it;
Agoraline
Agorline
Algoraline
Algorline
or?
None of the above actually.
It is an Agora Line. Agora is the model and Line the variant.
There are also Agora S and Agora L (articulated) models too.
The difference is the Line has the engine layout as we have generally in Australia the S and L the engine is off to the side giving room for another exit at the rear.
oh, well that explains a lot, thank you
Quote from: ajw373 on May 06, 2016, 04:44:46 PM
None of the above actually.
It is an Agora Line. Agora is the model and Line the variant.
There are also Agora S and Agora L (articulated) models too.
The difference is the Line has the engine layout as we have generally in Australia the S and L the engine is off to the side giving room for another exit at the rear.
The engine is off to the side in ours too.
The engine sits in a cradle type structure that is suspended to the left side of the chassis, and is dropped down lower than in a high floor Renault. They also have an offset differential. I'm not sure if this was done to lower floor height or to allow additional room for the cooling system.
Line I think would refer to the type of work to be undertaken as route services are referred to as line work overseas.
Quote from: The Love Guru on May 06, 2016, 09:27:36 PM
The engine is off to the side in ours too.
The engine sits in a cradle type structure that is suspended to the left side of the chassis, and is dropped down lower than in a high floor Renault. They also have an offset differential. I'm not sure if this was done to lower floor height or to allow additional room for the cooling system.
Line I think would refer to the type of work to be undertaken as route services are referred to as line work overseas.
I was trying to keep it simple considering who asked, but anyway, the engine in the Line is mounted longitudinally, in the S and L it is transversely mounted. Transverse gives the ability for an extra door right at the back.
The Line may well get its name from the work type, but engine location is very much what makes the Line different from the S and L.
I've noticed they've started removing the guardrails (or whatever they're called) from the drivers side seats after the foldup seats on the old Scanias, i guess they finally got enough complaints from people complaining about not enough leg room or something... *sarcastic laugh*
On another topic, I've noticed today, one of the Artics has a red nose on it again (or it's just always been on there, and I haven't noticed). I was just wondering, how do they fix it on there? Cause I've noticed with the E6 front design, there isn't really much space there for something to hook onto.
Each question you asked has been answered on the ACTION Facebook page.
Some of the special needs fleet have also got red noses.
107 was broken down at the lights turning right from Launceston to Melrose at about 8:25am
573 was broken down at the Albert Hall stop <10mins later (and I was on that bus and run yesterday, why do I always just miss out on the excitement?)
I also almost got to go on 490 today (not for the sake of it but it was operating the service I was going to board), but had the door closed on me :( If only I'd been a few mins earlier
Quote from: Buzz Killington on May 28, 2016, 06:22:25 PM
Each question you asked has been answered on the ACTION Facebook page.
not my fault i dont have a facebook/twitter account...
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on June 03, 2016, 09:58:46 PM
not my fault i dont have a facebook/twitter account...
You actually don't need an account to access Facebook or Twitter. I don't have a Facebook account but I access ACTION's page everyday just to read the complaints.
Since you asked the questions, here are the relevant links for you so you can find out more information.
Red noses: https://www.facebook.com/ACTIONBusesACT/posts/587765761401443
Scania L94UB Modesty Panels: https://www.facebook.com/ACTIONBusesACT/posts/573965926114760
Not sure why they're now taking those panels out, they only put them in (however many) years ago. They were not installed from delivery and they would have been added as a safety measure to stop people sitting in that row from flying forward in an accident, now anyone sitting there once again has nothing in front of them to stop them flying out of the seat during sudden braking.
Well, that's exactly one of the thins I was continuously complaining to ACTION about for nearly 2 years a few years ago, about their
useless email alert system.
Once upon a time, when I first used the email system, it was good, and provided you with what you wanted. I even remember when I first signed up, you were able to choose what stuff you wanted to be notified for and what not. When the site was re-designed, everyone had to re-subscribe to the email alerts, but this time, you couldn't choose what you wanted. Now they just do it them selves, and are too lazy to put in the things that are actually significant. - Like a bus strike, I would like to know if there's a bus strike on instead of going out, waiting at the 300 bus stop for nearly an hour before realising what's wrong, and info about the buses including the recent things I have been remarking on... things
like that.
During my complaints period, I even requested that they could provide (just for me each week) some of the things they include on their twitter/FB feed, but no, typical of ACTION, the "bean counters" are too busy *cough* sure thing *cough*, and can't be stuffed at least providing a few text from their feeds every-so-often on 1 email alert.
Quote from: Busnerd on June 04, 2016, 04:39:20 PMadded as a safety measure to stop people sitting in that row from flying forward in an accident
it makes sense for them to be there, but they need to have more legroom (at least), which is one reason I hate sitting there on the E5s (esp inconvenient during peak-hour-sardine-tin-filled-300s).
Moving onto another topic...
I passed by Woden Depot earlier today, and noticed a PR3 poking out of the back between all the P2s, I couldn't quite see the number, but with the white removed sticker, it looked like 105, but I thought I saw 990 something, could someone confirm this for me please.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on June 03, 2016, 09:58:46 PM
not my fault i dont have a facebook/twitter account...
I don't keep track of who has or hasn't got a Facebook account.
(Not sure who else's "fault" it could be, given the choice to have an account is a choice for each individual, but anyway..)
Quote from: Busnerd on June 04, 2016, 04:39:20 PM
... now anyone sitting there once again has nothing in front of them to stop them flying out of the seat during sudden braking.
Agreed, but they've had complaints about lack of legroom behind the screens.
They are only being removed from the off side seats, for whatever reason.
Seats on the off side are closer to the longitudinal flip up seats from memory, so the little legroom there is was further reduced with the installation of the modesty panel.
Well at least for once they warn us... http://prntscr.com/bjpeew
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on June 23, 2016, 05:42:29 AM
Well at least for once they warn us... http://prntscr.com/bjpeew
They always do. ???
I've had 3 occasions where I didn't know till it happened in the past (2 times with my mum)
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on June 23, 2016, 10:59:00 AM
I've had 3 occasions where I didn't know till it happened in the past (2 times with my mum)
Which is YOUR fault, not ACTION's. All driver meetings are advised in advance - with posters at the Bus Stations as a minimum. And in recent years via Facebook and Twitter. They would also be reported in the media. (Not sure what more you expect.)
For those wondering how ACTION would be able to run charters to Bruce Stadium this Friday during PM peak, the answer has been revealed.
They won't. Brumbies buses will be operated by Deane's Buslines.
*QCity Transit
lol, that'll be interesting.
Quote from: #Domelight Drew on July 19, 2016, 09:13:39 PM
*QCity Transit
What's written on the bus beneath the driver's window?
On Monday and Tuesday, noticed all on-board nxtbus screens showing prolonged periods of white between the stop/minutes sequence. Today, showing a few ads as well but still prolonged periods of white screen.
Yesterday, 151 was broken down AM peak resulting in the closure of the entire platform 10.
And just a little grumble, yesterday, one of my drivers had a stern word to another passenger as they went to get off about pressing the stop button no earlier than 100m from his stop so that he didn't have the stop light shining in his eyes. The people that got on at that stop clearly heard that, and did just that- of course, too close to the next stop and that stop was missed...
Quote from: Busfanatic101 on July 20, 2016, 05:30:32 PM
On Monday and Tuesday, noticed all on-board nxtbus screens showing prolonged periods of white between the stop/minutes sequence. Today, showing a few ads as well but still prolonged periods of white screen.
It's been that way for weeks - it is because of the lack of ads to show (presumably).
Quote from: Busfanatic101 on July 20, 2016, 05:30:32 PM
Yesterday, 151 was broken down AM peak resulting in the closure of the entire platform 10.
Typical. I believe it was about 0800.
Quote from: Busfanatic101 on July 20, 2016, 05:30:32 PM
And just a little grumble, yesterday, one of my drivers had a stern word to another passenger as they went to get off about pressing the stop button no earlier than 100m from his stop so that he didn't have the stop light shining in his eyes. The people that got on at that stop clearly heard that, and did just that- of course, too close to the next stop and that stop was missed...
Who cares that the light will shine in the drivers eyes; the sun does that already during daytime and they don't whinge about that (I don't think). Plus, every other driver has the same thing happen to them. The point of the stop button is to alert the driver to stop. Passengers are entitled to press that when their stop is the next stop. Otherwise, there is no point.
Quote from: King of Buses on July 20, 2016, 07:39:57 PM
It's been that way for weeks - it is because of the lack of ads to show (presumably).
they could just leave the nextbus route info up there and not have anything else if there is nothing else, that would be better than just a blank screen imo. Although, the other day i did see an ad saying something like "tired of seeing ads on this screen - check out the new app" or something - that made me laugh.
btw, should the darts still be running the 101 next week?
Why wouldn't the darts be running the 101 next week?
I'm pretty sure I saw them taking the wrap of one of the Darts & applying it to a new Scania. Looks a bit ugly with the green bit on the end though.
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Quote from: #Domelight Drew on July 22, 2016, 08:34:41 AM
Why wouldn't the darts be running the 101 next week?
Just need to be sure, so I can do one of my drawings without any hassles
Quote from: Bus 400 on July 22, 2016, 09:28:48 AM
I'm pretty sure I saw them taking the wrap of one of the Darts & applying it to a new Scania. Looks a bit ugly with the green bit on the end though.
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No way. Ewww.
So is 490 gone yet?
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on July 30, 2016, 06:25:08 PM
So is 490 gone yet?
Yes, it went back a few weeks ago. Check 490's Fleetwiki page for more information: http://www.actbus.net/fleetwiki/index.php?title=BUS_490_(3)
ah ok, thanks
(I was on the gallery this morning and saw it featured on the former ACTION tab, so I had suspicions, but wanted to be sure)
The Constitution Av roadworks are nearing completion (believe it or not)
Bus route changes will be announced soon.
https://twitter.com/ACTIONbuses/status/763940096156381184
oh thank god, it's about time ::)
Quote from: Barry Drive on August 13, 2016, 11:32:57 AM
The Constitution Av roadworks are nearing completion (believe it or not)
Bus route changes will be announced soon.
https://twitter.com/ACTIONbuses/status/763940096156381184
I hope they reopen the National Covention stop. That stop have been closed for ages. Also the CIT bus stops are getting new shelters replacing the bunkers.
Well, I never thought I'd see the day when I'd ever see this room in use again :popping:
on the other hand, if it weren't in use today, I would've said something like...
Quote from: SylvanWhile the asbestos work is going on at Woden's office, surely it would be logical if they used the old ticket sales room right?
While I haven't gone into it alot, as a part of Gov Hack thing, a group of students have created a website to show how bus services connect different groups of society.
https://2016.hackerspace.govhack.org/content/treetcred
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New door hangers are available on the buses, a small one advertising TC and with bringing you improved network and dates for route changes
They have also done a drop of flyers to letterboxes, the same as the hanger except, of course, rectangular
There was "Tree lopping" going on on the median strip of lower Northbourne Avenue. Would this have anything to do with light rail?
Quote from: Busfanatic101 on August 23, 2016, 08:43:04 PM
There was "Tree lopping" going on on the median strip of lower Northbourne Avenue. Would this have anything to do with light rail?
Well the Light Rail line can't really go through trees, so I'd say it's linked - even though it may be some time until they work on that section for the actual line (I don't know the schedule of when what is happening).
The first trees specifically for light rail construction, vis the inner row are not meant to be cut until October 2016 (presumably to ensure they are still there come election time). The outer row before Mid 2017.
There were however a number of trees that were to have been cut down due to disease, but this was meant to be back in April/May not now.
So maybe it is these.
Any more info on how many trees you are talking and if they are in rows or seemingly 'random'?
How is the light rail track going to be fully designed though? cause I've ridden up those roads a couple of times before, and there's not always an island in the middle all the way to Gungahlin. ???
On another topic, I can really see that ACTION's really 'trying' to put the LEDs into the P2s, rode 968 on the way home today, should've seen the patch job they did to replace the old flipdot display in the drivers cockpit, lol what a mess ;D. (inserts pic here when I can get a shot in the day time)
also, i got my new TC card yesterday, and just as i thought, it's pretty boring, but i did want one, cause at least it's a change from that not as appealing blue/white/yellow card. i will mention though, it looks like the printing of the TC on the front side went a little wrong, cause the colours are not as bright as they're shown on all the advertising - which is a little disappointing. oh well, at least now i'll finially be able to keep a my way card for memorabilia. :D
Quote from: ajw373 on August 24, 2016, 12:28:04 AM
There were however a number of trees that were to have been cut down due to disease, but this was meant to be back in April/May not now.
So maybe it is these.
Any more info on how many trees you are talking and if they are in rows or seemingly 'random'?
I saw this as I went past on a bus in the morning so don't know- they were working on one at that time, don't know if they continued with others
EDIT: This morning, appears only one was cut (all but half the trunk), but the signage remains- they may be back in better weather?
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on August 24, 2016, 01:42:43 AM
How is the light rail track going to be fully designed though? cause I've ridden up those roads a couple of times before, and there's not always an island in the middle all the way to Gungahlin. ???
It's not an 'island', it's a median strip.
It should be no problem getting the Lightrail down Flemington Road. Designers and planners are very good at making solutions to these things.
Quote from: Bus 503 on August 24, 2016, 09:26:03 PM
It's not an 'island', it's a median strip.
Yeh that.
Okie dokie, we'll see how it goes then.
Modern technology FTW lol
Well whatever had happened to 968, I caught it the other day, and it looked fine. - probably forgot to remove the masking tape when they finished the work before the bus was needed on that day
on another topic, is the date indicated on each section on the gallery the date when the particular section was updated/had photos added?
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on September 03, 2016, 03:03:26 AM
on another topic, is the date indicated on each section on the gallery the date when the particular section was updated/had photos added?
By default the album will show the date it was created. From there, it will update to display the date of the most recent image.
ok, cool thanks
Was there an accident on Tuggeranong Parkway last night by any chance? cause I was on the way home when a 160 passed on Athlon Drive, I first assumed he was just returning to the depot cause he had no one on board, but then he turned right onto Sulwood Drive at the roundabout. Anyone know anything about this?
Was there an accident on Tuggeranong Parkway? Was it a day ending in "Y" ?
It was all over twitter.
Aha, that makes a lot of sense then (kinda disappointing I didn't get the 160 home then ^-^ - I often like a little exploration away from a normal bus service)
Quote from: Barry Drive on September 08, 2016, 11:35:38 AM
Was there an accident on Tuggeranong Parkway? Was it a day ending in "Y" ?
It's not that bad, normally just once in a month ending in the letter R.
Some bus that had been on a 26/726 ended up dead running along Sulwood Dr, as did a northbound 62. One poor bus driver didn't get the memo of the Tuggeranong Carpark & became stuck on the slipway from Hindmarsh.
Checking out the crash site for 5 seconds tonight, the barrier was wacked during the incident.
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I was heading north and the southbound lanes were backed up almost down to Cotter Road :/
I must say, it's about time... 4 bloody years of not having 64 times on the timetable on bus stop no. 2651...
According to the Forest Miniatures (London Transport Heritage Centre) Facebook page, they have taken delivery of ex BUS 730 for preservation.
https://www.facebook.com/Forest-Miniatures-261134207339113/?fref=ts
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Hey, I'm just doing a concept drawing atm, and it's nearly done. Now as I'm unable to find an appropriate photo on the gallery for what I'm after, I just need to ask, is the roof of the dinosaur (fossil fuels) AOA buses blue too, or is it the standard white?
White
The gallery is your friend...best try to find your own information through means available to you rather than just asking. People (including myself) get incredibly frustrated when other just ask questions rather than using a bit of initiative themselves.
ps-the standard roof colour isn't actually white, its a very light shade of green called arctic green.
well I did look at the gallery first, but i couldn't find what i was after even with all the shots i could see of the 3 different buses, which is why i asked (just in case i don't get to see one for a while - and esp as you cant walk on the top part of Woden anymore, cause I would've alternately done that instead).
I did however see one today, but didn't get a good glimpse, but from what i could see, it
is white on top, although the blue does cover just the edges (cause it covers the side desto part of the roof too - which is what was confusing me).
Quote from: #Domelight Drew on September 12, 2016, 04:40:44 PM
ps- the standard roof colour isn't actually white, its a very light shade of green called arctic green.
interesting to know, although I don't think Frixion supply light arctic green in their erasable pen range :D :P
While the ACTPLA page is mucking up, an application has been released for a Park & Ride in Wanniassa/Kambah. Cars would park off Rylah Crescent & major Stoddart shelters would be installed on AthllonDr, with a new set of traffic lights to be installed to allow people to cross.
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Quote from: Barry Drive on August 13, 2016, 11:32:57 AM
The Constitution Av roadworks are nearing completion (believe it or not)
Bus route changes will be announced soon.
https://twitter.com/ACTIONbuses/status/763940096156381184
Constitution Av between Coranderrk and Anzac Pde will reopen to buses in both directions on Monday. All stops along Constitution will be Red Rapid stops.
Quote from: Barry Drive on April 03, 2016, 03:28:58 PM
Now that's a slightly more intelligent question. Only slightly.
Well here's a (I'll admit this time) really stupid question: What does the B in the circle on all the ACTION/TC pamphlets/timetables/noticeboards indicate/mean?
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on September 20, 2016, 08:09:53 PM
Well here's a (I'll admit this time) really stupid question: What does the B in the circle on all the ACTION/TC pamphlets/timetables/noticeboards indicate/mean?
B is for bus
A is for active travel
L is for light rail
Just a lame copy from Transport for NSW who use B T F L, replacing the pictograms of old. Stupidly Transport Canberra has copied them but made them look different instead of working with TfNSW to make the logos of the modes the same across both states/territories.
Right, as embarrassingly obvious as I imagined.
yeah, I imagined it had some sort of relation to something NSW/VIC transport had done in the past - just like with the My Way cards. - I had to ask though, cause it felt real dumb seeing it everywhere and not knowing.
Now yes, I actually looked at the wiki page for once, I'm just doing some stuff with my bus book at the moment, getting my results pages and next years set-up done early so I don't have to do it at the start of next year (like I did this year cause I couldn't be bothered writing a couple thousand numbers again), but anywho, I've got almost what I was after, just a few question arose from the search, a few of which may not be possible to answer yet.
1. With the remaining few P2s, is it at all possible that buses 891, 894, 898 and 900-920whatever, will still be in service in 2017, or will the 800s all be decommissioned by the end of this year?
2. Same as above, but with the remaining P3s and Darts, no's. 998 and 999? 145, 147, 148, 150 and 151
3. I noticed the new electric buses have been mentioned in the wiki now, and with their numbers, after 20 years, almost back to the 700s again :o, although it says they're expected in Dec this year, will there be any chance of me riding them at all this year (in December), or will they be kept and then put into service in January?
4. Lastly, probably a pretty stupid question, but it's just so I can categorise them in my book in the 'others' section, what bus model are the new electric buses? (ie. Mercedes, Mack, Renault, Scania, Man, etc)
1-3: we don't know for sure - good chance the remaining 800s will be gone.
4: Avass
Alright, well keep me posted, I'll hold off writing the numbers into my book for the meantime.
Hmm, well no wonder I hadn't heard of the company before; just looked up their site, very interesting, very new, and nice looking buses too.
Thanks again.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on September 25, 2016, 02:12:19 PM
I hadn't heard of the company before
It was only mentioned in the topic on the new Electric Buses, and listed in the Wiki. >:( But I'm sure you'll have forgotten in two weeks' time and ask again.
Quote from: Barry Drive on September 25, 2016, 02:29:28 PM
I'm sure you'll have forgotten in two weeks' time and ask again.
Yeah probably. :-\
I did notice that name mentioned in that post, I didn't realise it was the brand of bus, and more the specification like the CB60KU or whatever they're called - (yes, I don't know much about specifications when it comes to buses).
"I hadn't heard of the company before"
What I meant by that was anywhere other than on this forum
So like I said...
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on October 02, 2016, 05:58:09 PMAs it was a bit more relaxing than any other bus hopping outing, I got some really constructive work done on my bus book during the day.
mainly completing all of next years stuff really early so I don't have to do it later, which I'm really pleased about, but I did hit a few bumps along the way.
I'll wait for a while on confirmation of the remaining 890s, and check in again to the wiki in a month or so before the new year, but the other thing that I wanted to ask was about the new shipment of E6s, the trials, and that rumoured artic.
I was discussing this with KoB last week, with those next 20 E6s that are coming in, will they be as straight forward as 616 to 635, or will the additional artic be within that somewhere?
And although the wiki says 650, 651, 652 for the AVASS, is it possible that will change? - I haven't written them in yet just in case.
I can wait for an answer if these cannot be confirmed as of yet.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on October 02, 2016, 06:07:03 PM
I can wait for an answer if these cannot be confirmed as of yet.
That would be best. Since the answer is the same as the last time.
While it was so long ago I can't remember where it is in the forum.
As of Monday 31 October, services are back to normal at Canberra Hospital. The NSW Trainlink website show the closure started back in 11 March 2015.
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Was just reading some of the posts on the ex-ACTION bus, and noticed something about 'Access Recycling'. Anyway, I looked them up, and they have a location north of the Fyshwick Terminus - is this where I could find any ACTION stuff that has been thrown out, such as flip-dot displays, seat covers, bus framework, etc?
Once ACTION has removed anything from a retired bus that is of use to them, Access Recycling is generally where the remains end up to be, as the name suggests, recycled.
This hasn't been worth mentioning, at least not till now, but I have been doing Cert III - Diploma studies in music at CIT the past couple of years, and with this, helping me hear and understand music more and more...
Anyway, I was just on my home just now on 325 humming along to its engine as I always do, but for the first time ever (due to the music training I've had) it was almost as if I could feel a tempo, a time signature and a melody within 325's engine as it was going along.
I've always had a sense that 'bus music' was possible, but it wasn't until juts now that I realized it is right there if you listen closely enough.
I was even tapping along as I was humming along too. 4|4 time signature, with a few 3|4 and 2|4 bars here and there between gear shifts, at around 100bpm.
The Symphony of Bus 325 lol. ;D
(https://www.actbus.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fuploads.tapatalk-cdn.com%2F20161028%2Ff9b546e151255e1e792fd6adcb95c9e9.gif&hash=2a2c98d50cc3abec8f7755be757f4a8fe6c1bb97)
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Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on October 27, 2016, 10:30:49 PM
This hasn't been worth mentioning, at least not till now, but I have been doing Cert III - Diploma studies in music at CIT the past couple of years, and with this, helping me hear and understand music more and more...
Anyway, I was just on my home just now on 325 humming along to its engine as I always do, but for the first time ever (due to the music training I've had) it was almost as if I could feel a tempo, a time signature and a melody within 325's engine as it was going along.
I've always had a sense that 'bus music' was possible, but it wasn't until juts now that I realized it is right there if you listen closely enough.
I was even tapping along as I was humming along too. 4|4 time signature, with a few 3|4 and 2|4 bars here and there between gear shifts, at around 100bpm.
The Symphony of Bus 325 lol. ;D
I'm not sure what to say to that. I am totally lost for words - there are a few "what the ****" going on in my brain at the moment.
Quote from: Buzz Killington on January 08, 2016, 08:22:06 PM
As for reporting @canberradavid to Twitter, they won't do anything. His opinions are moronic but they're not breaking any rules.
Looks like "Dave" has shut up now and changed his tweets to being private. The election told him what he's worth.
I was told the other day by a Belco transport officer, that Custom Coaches have gone bung or something. So we will still get up to 635 and that other artic before the new designs, or is that it for CC designs?
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on November 03, 2016, 11:34:10 PM
I was told the other day by a Belco transport officer, that Custom Coaches have gone bung or something. So we will still get up to 635 and that other artic before the new designs, or is that it for CC designs?
Custom Coaches went under a few years back now and were purchased by one of its previous owners and the company renamed Custom Bus. Thats when buses started to come with just the word Custom on the logo rather than Custom Coaches.
I don't believe there has been any other fiscal issues since.
Also current deliveries are stop at 621 which is the extra artic. Except for the 3 electric buses I don't recall there being any announcement of either a tender or an extension of an existing contract. So where are you getting 635 from?
well 633, this - http://prntscr.com/chrr2o
and oh, I thought a new post was made, but I guess it was deleted. never mind.
Well, the column 'Expected Deliveries' lists Scania K320UB/Bustech VST, nos. 622 to 641. Perhaps this is the source of information.
Quote from: triumph on November 04, 2016, 01:54:22 PM
Well, the column 'Expected Deliveries' lists Scania K320UB/Bustech VST, nos. 622 to 641. Perhaps this is the source of information.
Not quite sure where you are seeing that, but if that is what it says then don't doubt it. 620 is very much the last in the order for CB80 Scania rigids and 621 the extra artic, so clearly at some point the next contract has been annouced.
But the point remains, they are not going elsewhere because Customs has gone under, that was ancient history, they have obviously gone to new supplier.
If you search the right location, (Google & ACT Bus Fleetwiki aren't it) you will find your answer.
(At time of typing) No new tender has been announced. But the current contract is with Scania. As long as the bus engine & body pass the tests. Scania can get a Contract Variation & have a new body builder. But til we have Bus 622 & 641 in service. We won't know 100%.
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I found the information in the ACTBus Fleetwiki under the general heading Action Buses - Fleet Information and read down to Expected Deliveries and click this to see details.
Apologies if this has been reported elsewhere - 390 has lost all remaining stickers from its launch.
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All of them? I thought I just saw the big red MAN missing?
My apologies - I've been informed that some of the roofline stickers are still there. I wasn't very astute in my observations!
In other news, a new Route 907 PDF has appeared online: http://www.transport.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0006/911553/route_907.pdf
No changes to times, but timing points have been increased to be better standardised with Route 14. The HTML timetable does not appear to have been done - that also shows times for Emu Bank and Aikman Dr, which the PDF does not.
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well I saw 390 today, and it seems only the blue lettering above the doors and such remain. (picture below)
I saw an artic today, but not one of ours, it was what looked like an old fashion Perth artic, cause it had a tank on top of both carriages, although it was a black livery with other writing on it. Anyone else see this?
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on November 18, 2016, 11:17:10 PM
I saw an artic today, but not one of ours, it was what looked like an old fashion Perth artic, cause it had a tank on top of both carriages, although it was a black livery with other writing on it. Anyone else see this?
The moonlight bus, pretty much one of those party buses I think. I saw it on Barry Dr today at around 6:45pm. The last I recall seeing it before today was a long time ago, perhaps skyfire last year...
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on November 18, 2016, 11:17:10 PM
I saw an artic today, but not one of ours, it was what looked like an old fashion Perth artic, cause it had a tank on top of both carriages, although it was a black livery with other writing on it. Anyone else see this?
This vehicle would be ex-Adelaide, it is a PMC bodied Volvo B10M. The pod on the roof is a evaporative cooler. I believe these were known in Adelaide as brown bombers, due to their brown and cream livery.
Quote from: Sir Pompously on November 18, 2016, 11:50:29 PM
This vehicle would be ex-Adelaide, it is a PMC bodied Volvo B10M. The pod on the roof is a evaporative cooler. I believe these were known in Adelaide as brown bombers, due to their brown and cream livery.
It's an ex-Adelaide Mercedes-Benz O 305G. One would assume it's ex O-bahn with a 100kph diff in it. It looks alright. Sound is great!
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Cool, well I hope to see it again.
I'll have a little look for it online too, see what I can find of it on google and such.
Quote from: Busfanatic101 on November 18, 2016, 11:31:58 PMThe moonlight bus, pretty much one of those party buses I think. I saw it on Barry Dr today at around 6:45pm
You must've been on a bus close to where I was then, cause I saw it heading up College Street around that time too.
Another party bus eh, what number was the pink one again? I know it was an old Mk1 P2, cause I stood next to it once when it was outside The Canberra Theater, just don't remember which one it was.
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on November 20, 2016, 04:18:43 AM
Cool, well I hope to see it again.
I'll have a little look for it online too, see what I can find of it on google and such.
Did you get a sniff of it? Cause there would be a bus with a unique smell in Canberra. One of the downsides of Evap cooling is they introduce moisture which then makes the seats go damp and they end up musty smelling.
Pink Party Bus is ex 803. It still has the ACTION fleet numbers on it.
Very funny... no, I was inhaling the fumes of a P3 when sitting up the back all the way from Belconnen to Lanyon
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Thanks.
Quote from: The Love Guru on November 19, 2016, 08:42:45 AM
It's an ex-Adelaide Mercedes-Benz O 305G. One would assume it's ex O-bahn with a 100kph diff in it. It looks alright. Sound is great!
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Ah, I thought it was the B10M. Must be the one in Sydney that is the Volvo.
532 and 523 were out with Learner driver duties today.
In the Tuggeranong edition of this month's Our Canberra newsletter, it mentions a trial non-stop Xpresso between Tuggeranong and Gungahlin with 3 services in the morning and 3 in the arvo coming shortly
hmm, it's about time they did something like that.
I suppose this would be something to do with the 2016-202 project thingy
By the way, I noticed on the fleet wiki the new AVASS buses have arrived, are they on service yet though?
If they were "on service" don't you think the Fleetwiki would show that also? (Although clearly I missed that part where it says they've been delivered, but maybe that's because I'm not a new breed of bus spotter who sees things that others don't.)
Never mind, I went to Tuggeranong Depot today while I was out, had a good look around, but didn't see them. (original thought) So either they are at Belconnen, or already on the roads.
That's what I was thinking at least till I asked someone in the ACTION office. "they don't arrive till late next week, which depot is unconfirmed"
Which means this info is somewhat not yet accurate (https://www.actbus.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPpcaLUX.png&hash=ddc89af0ab6504c0864b2a51c6fba45fb6ec5c3a)
Quote from: Sylvan Loves Buses on December 09, 2016, 02:44:38 AM
Which means this info is somewhat not yet accurate
So are you suggesting maybe a footnote explaining that those buses are due for delivery, but not yet delivered?
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