Bus Stop and Shelter discussion

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route56

Over the last week I have visited several locations and taken photos for my book (as discussed on the Bus 670 tour) titled 'Bus Stops of Canberra - the Compleat Guide'.

If you know of the best examples of different bus stops in Canberra only, please post the locations here.

I will use this thread to update people on the books progress.

Kramden

#1
Perhaps for your cover shot you could use the distinctive brown plastic shelter stop...well, it LOOKS plastic, located on Narrabundah Lane Symonston.  I think it's the first stop after Geoscience Australia on route 80 heading to Woden.  By coincidence I only saw it today for the first time.  Have never seen one like it ANYWHERE!

Happy snapping and good luck with your book.

Barry Drive

#2
Just drove a 934 - plenty of notable shelters on that route. Including Canberra Hospital, Parliament House, ANU (each have shelters unique to their location). Also Hughes Shops has a bunker which still has 2 old ACTION logos and a stop on Kent St (also bunker) still has not only the original orange plastic seat, but a seat-back as well.
Scullin Shops has a shelter which I've not seen anywhere else.
Somewhere there's an old bus stop peg with Signal Bus still painted on - I can't remember where it was, but it might be somewhere not regularly serviced.

King of Buses

if you don't have pics of the shelters like what was at the city interchange,
There is City West or Kippax.
I also have designed a Ashell Bus Shelter model for your book as you asked, still to do more bus shelters.
Good Luck! :D

Snorzac

Font forget the giant adShels at BCBS.



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route56

Thanks for the suggestions folks.

King of Buses - i have made a bunker shelter from a cut down dunny roll centre. Im not sure what scale it is....

I'll be out taking some more photos this week.

I need to make a list of all different types of shelter as well. I will post it in a week or two.

Barry Drive

Most common shelter types:
Bunker, Aluminium, blue metal, Adshel, red metal (only in City & Manuka).
Also terminus shelters (a few variations) - such as at Watson, Chapman, Farrer (weatherboard), Narrabundah, Weston, Kippax (just facilities - no seats), Spence.
Don't forget the stops on National Circuit and Langton Av.

Bunker at Marcus Clarke St (which may not be around much longer) has ACTION logos and original seating.

Would be good to try to get a variety of seats as well. Many stops have new metal/plastic seats, but a few concrete/wood slat seats may still remain, just can't think of any locations.

See if you can get permission to photograph the stop at AMC.

Buzz Killington

#7
Off the top of my head, there's a few different types of blue metal shelters in Monash (along the 63), Gordon (Lewis Luxton and Knoke) and Conder (Box Hill Av, Tom Roberts Av)

There's an old 'signal bus' peg which I think is along Archdall St (Macgregor?) with a route number on it. There's also the old blue and white school bus pegs which doubled as commuter express stops on some routes - at least three examples of this are in Kambah - Boddington Cr between Drakeford and Bacchus, Livingston Av between Atkins and Sulwood, and finally on McTaggart Crescent.

There used to be a peg on Newcastle St between the lights at McDonalds and the next roundabout - had a blue and red sign on it. Not sure if it is still there or not.

Quote from: ACTbusspotter on August 14, 2011, 03:22:00 PMbut a few concrete/wood slat seats may still remain, just can't think of any locations.

Used to be a few on Boddington Cres in Kambah from memory. Not sure if they still are.

Quote from: ACTbusspotter on August 14, 2011, 03:22:00 PMLangton Av

A rare slip!

Kramden

Quote from: ACTbusspotter on August 13, 2011, 06:25:13 PM
...a stop on Kent St (also bunker) still has not only the original orange plastic seat, but a seat-back as well..

Was just driving (not a bus!) along Osburn Drive MacGregor in a west/south west direction and noticed two more bunkers in a row with orange seat backs.  First one was near the old BP servo.

Barry Drive

OK, Langton Cres. That will teach me not to check a map before posting.

Buzz Killington

:P

Can see why you'd confuse the names of Langton Cres and Langdon Ave. They are very similar.

The Love Guru

Went past 2 ACTION style bunkers in Goulburn on Saturday. One even had the ACTION orange plastic panel below the window. The other had a green one, similar to the current low floor buses.

Busnerd

There's plenty of them in Sydney too. Belrose, Wakehurst Parkway in whatever suburb it is in, Woodville Road outside McDonalds Merrylands, no doubt John will remember this one from driving to his marshalling post at Parramatta (except when he stays in a hotel)

King of Buses

The Shelter on Corinna St in Phillip is different to the others I've seen around the place.
Also there are some bunkers on Canberra Ave when heading to Queanbeyan.
Oaks Estate has the old Bus Shelter there as well.

If you really want to go searching for a bunker in the middle of nowhere, somewhere on the way to Captains flat there is a bunker (unsure of whether it is Ex-ACTION or other) seems to be utilised by coaches...

I've done an Adshel model, and I'm now working on the blue shelters and Bunkers.

Good Luck once again! ;D

lukeo25

And there is a bunker near maitland rail station

King of Buses

You may want to use pics of the bunkers painted in different things. The ones I know of are in Bruce CIT and down near Alfred Deakin High School. There are others though. Also, if the book is only about shelters, oughtn't the title be  Bus Shelters of Canberra as buyers may think it includes bus stops signs/other infrastructure?
Good Luck!

Buzz Killington

A few in Barton on Kings Ave and from memory Ainsworth St had a few painted shelters too.

route56

In the 80's or 90's local schools took ownership of bunker shelters and decorated them. Is there a list of these anywhere, and per chance photographs ?

belcodriver

Quote from: route56 on August 18, 2011, 07:28:05 PM
In the 80's or 90's local schools took ownership of bunker shelters and decorated them. Is there a list of these anywhere, and per chance photographs ?

Can't remember where or when I saw this but one of the shelters had a plaque on it saying something like "This shelter was painted as part of the Duratone shelter painting competition in 1988" but the shelter had since been whitewashed so some wit grafittied next to the plaque "minimalism eh?"

Barry Drive

#19
It was "Montone Paint and Wallpaper".

This comes from the ACT Bus History section:

Bus Shelter Painting Competition
When is grafitti not grafitti? When it's part of the ACTION/Montone Paints and Wallpaper Bus Shelter Painting Competition! The second year of the competition in 1988 saw another 50 shelters come alive and more schools and community groups collect great prizes! Lyneham High School won the overall prize for its shelter in Archibald St, Lyneham. They won the $1,000 cheque from Montone Paints and Wallpaper and $300 worth of bus travel.

Three other prizes of $300 worth of bus travel were awarded to the winners of the three categories. The pre/primary school sction was won by Rosary Demonstration School in Watson with its shelter in Knox Street, Watson. Dickson College won the Secondary School College division with its shelter in Antill Street Dickson (opposite Cadell Street). The Open/Community Groups section was won by Bruce Hostel for the intellectually disabled. Their shelter is the second stop on Haydon Drive opposite Calvary Hospital.

Entries were judged by Senior Lecturer of the Australian National Gallery Education Centre, Barbara Brinton, who in each section carefully considered the subject chosen. the use of the shape of the shelter in the design. the use of colour and interesting paint application, whether the design was appropriate for the surroundings and the impact and "talking points"

Irisbus Rider

#20
Quote from: Busn00b on August 16, 2011, 09:14:46 AM
There's plenty of them in Sydney too. Belrose, Wakehurst Parkway in whatever suburb it is in, Woodville Road outside McDonalds Merrylands, no doubt John will remember this one from driving to his marshalling post at Parramatta (except when he stays in a hotel)
I never take the Ken-recommended route of Woodville Rd, but yes, I know the shelter you're talking about.

This sounds like a good idea, 'route56'. I'm anticipating the outcome of this shelter-related book, which no doubt will include 'paper shelters' for self assembly. Heck, it could even include fold out shelters in the book :P

Sir Pompously

See, the difference with the Bus Shelter painting comp is that it was local art, done by ordinary people or groups in a local sense, and was fun for all involved. The crap $300,000 artworks we see around Canberra at the moment are just not worth it, we have a crap wind thing, some metal dumped in the ground, a penis on a wooden stand..... The best thing we have is "The Parcel". I say bring back the the bunker shelter painting comp, give out real prizes and it will be a much cheaper way of encouraging public artworks in the ACT!

And remember all, there is a bunker shelter at Tallong, which may have come from Bredbo station (Which had a bunker waiting shelter there).

Also, Complete is Complete, not compleat (Sorry, but that was bugging me). Good luck with the book.

Buzz Killington

Quote from: Sir Pompously on August 19, 2011, 01:28:12 PM
Also, Complete is Complete, not compleat (Sorry, but that was bugging me). Good luck with the book.

I figured it was a subtle nod to the works of Shaun Micallef.


Kramden

#23
Quote from: ACTbusspotter on August 19, 2011, 10:37:05 AM

...When is grafitti not grafitti? When it's part of the ACTION/Montone Paints and Wallpaper Bus Shelter Painting Competition! The second year of the competition in 1988 saw another 50 shelters come alive and more schools and community groups collect great prizes! Lyneham High School won the overall prize for its shelter in Archibald St, Lyneham. They won the $1,000 cheque from Montone Paints and Wallpaper and $300 worth of bus travel...

I pulled up at the bunker on Liversidge St (ANU) northbound to swap drivers while doing route training yesterday.  I noticed not only has the '80s graffiti/artwork survived intact in this bunker, but according to the blue plaque the work was the creation of someone named 'Klaus Pinker'.   The similarity of the artist's name and that of TWU official Klaus Pinkas was not lost on me.  Could be a curiousity item for the intended book.  One could also speculate that both Klauses are infact one in the same and that the plaque might contain a typo.  Worth checking out perhaps.

King of Buses

there is also the shelters in Duntroon which are different to others...

ajw373

I really like the old wooden shelters found in the older suburbs. Good to see some have survived.

Just one thing though, how about calling your book "The Complete Guide". Compleat is a real word but the meaning doesn't make sense in the context of your book, so you wouldn't want a spelling mistake in the title!

Bus 400

#26
Two different shelters are at ADFA & at Jamison Shops.


smitho

Last Shelter on Carruthers St, Curtin northbound B4 left turn into Throssel St is a 'one off' as far as I know.

route56

Can anyone tell me when bus stop signs moved from wooden pegs, to steel poles with a sign on them?

When was this first done?
Where?
Are any wooden pegs still use?
Where they always painted yellow?



King of Buses

I don't really know that much about the pegs/poles, but some wooden pegs are still in use around the older suburbs. e.g. Kambah, Curtin, Hackett, Mitchell and some Belconnen. there are lots more of places where they are used.
If you are looking for a good quality peg, there is a nice one on Drakeford Dr when heading northbound. (1st stop of Woden bound 60 on drakeford dr. I pass it daily.

ajw373

Quote from: route56 on September 01, 2011, 12:52:09 PM
Can anyone tell me when bus stop signs moved from wooden pegs, to steel poles with a sign on them?

When was this first done?
Where?
Are any wooden pegs still use?
Where they always painted yellow?

In relation to the colour, the answer is no. There were some that were in different colours. Cannot recall the exact colours and uses, but for example there were stops that were school services only and I think weekend only and peak hour only stops too, which were a different colour. Blue and white and red and white comes to mind.

Barry Drive

There are still a few blue and white pegs to be found. Try Ashkanasy Cr, Evatt or Bingley Cr, Fraser. Not sure whether any Red and White ones survive.

The first non-wooden Bus Stop sign were similar to street signs (in size). Those are the ones which have the street name and a stop number on them. There are still many of these to be found. (Try Spofforth St, Holt.)  Some stops also had an additional "Commuter Express" stop blade for the days when Express services only serviced every second stop. This may also help date when these signs were first used.

As for colour, I have to disagree with my learned friend ajw373. Although none remain now, there used to be an alternative to the black/orange Bus Stop peg (orange peg with black band and writing): the Section peg. They would have ceased being used in the 70's (?) when the sectional fares were replaced by flat fares - it was like a Signal Bus peg, except that the black band was red and it read Section (in red) instead of Signal Bus. It might have also been a different base colour (more yellow than orange). I think it doubled as a Bus Stop peg, but I'm not certain about that.

ajw373

Quote from: ACTbusspotter on September 01, 2011, 02:13:29 PM

As for colour, I have to disagree with my learned friend ajw373. Although none remain now, there used to be an alternative to the black/orange Bus Stop peg (orange peg with black band and writing): the Section peg. They would have ceased being used in the 70's (?) when the sectional fares were replaced by flat fares - it was like a Signal Bus peg, except that the black band was red and it read Section (in red) instead of Signal Bus. It might have also been a different base colour (more yellow than orange). I think it doubled as a Bus Stop peg, but I'm not certain about that.

Disagree with what? The question was asked if they were always painted yellow. To which I said NO, meaning of course there were other colours!

Busnerd

Generally speaking, SECTION signs/pegs are generally bus stops too, it is just telling the driver mainly where the section starts/finishes

smitho

National Botanic Gardens shelter is certainly unique; probably has the greatest seating capacity of any shelter on the ACTION network. Although ACTION services through here are pretty limited, this shelter is also serviced by plenty of tourist / charter services.

The shelters outside the Senate and Reps wings of Parliament House and those on Federation Mall are certainly unique in design and the fact that they were built by the Parliament House Construction Authority.

route56

What sort of Bus Stop is located at the prison? Is it a custom bus stop or just an ordinary one ? I want to know if its worth the drive and the potential for hassle when i take photos.

smitho

Quote from: route56 on September 06, 2011, 10:48:55 PM
What sort of Bus Stop is located at the prison? Is it a custom bus stop or just an ordinary one ? I want to know if its worth the drive and the potential for hassle when i take photos.

It is a one-off design as I recall; bus has to go through some kind of remote controlled barrier gate to get access to the bus stop area...

Kramden

#37
Given the hysteria which often goes along with taking photos near 'official' areas, e.g. *government buildings, have you considered capturing the prison bus stop using a sketch artist?

Yeah OK, I'm being silly.  Seriously, I can just imagine you whipping out the Canon, the Nikkon, or whatever and a guard with a bad attitude tells you to 'move on'.

*It does happen.  I was once shooting some video in Mort St (getting some exterior building shots) for a departmental production when up pops an over zealous rent-a-cop telling me I can't do it.  I flashed my employee pass and told him that I actually work there and what it was for.  Didn't seem to count for much.  Despite my charm he still wrote it up and I had to front the Head of Security for a please explain.  Funny thing was there was a section in the final video related to failures in security systems linked to the master electrical supply to the department's buildings in Mort St and Civic West.  I failed that guy.  Some days you gotta laugh eh.

particleman

Quote from: Kramden on August 13, 2011, 05:26:06 PM
Perhaps for your cover shot you could use the distinctive brown plastic shelter stop...well, it LOOKS plastic, located on Narrabundah Lane Symonston.

There's also one of those on Wanganeen Avenue Ngunnawal (totally suited to the location) http://maps.google.com.au/maps?q=ngunnawal+shops&hl=en&ll=-35.174291,149.108543&spn=0.000566,0.000476&sll=-25.335448,135.745076&sspn=40.321106,31.201172&vpsrc=6&t=h&fll=-35.174262,149.10852&fspn=0.000566,0.000476&z=20&layer=c&cbll=-35.174367,149.108509&panoid=WZVhg34DKHbHIcFlTsNtuA&cbp=12,342.08,,0,2.28.

I remember a blue bunker in Sydney a while ago, somewhere between Macquarie Park and the Warringah Expressway.

Kramden

Spotted an odd-one-out that would worthy of inclusion in your book.  It's an olden days wooden style stop located city bound on Stuart St Griffith.  A sign for Strzelecki Cres is attached to this top of the structure.  Perhaps this proves that they once moved the wooden stops around in the same way that bunkers have been in more recent times.

I must say I love the old wooden shelters.  It reminds of a bygone era when bus driving was a bit more hard arsed than it's become.  An era of crash box machines, no power steering, seats like rocks, no seat belts, hard suspension, no air cond...


Bus 400

Quote from: Kramden on September 19, 2011, 01:05:05 PM
Spotted an odd-one-out that would worthy of inclusion in your book.  It's an olden days wooden style stop located city bound on Stuart St Griffith.  A sign for Strzelecki Cres is attached to this top of the structure.  Perhaps this proves that they once moved the wooden stops around in the same way that bunkers have been in more recent times.

I suspect the shelter has that name board on it as the next cross street to that shelter is Strzelecki Crescent. It is the same at the old shelter on Empire Circuit, where the next cross street is Melbourne Avenue, so the shelter is called Melbourne Avenue.

This would of been the old style of naming bus stops, with the other known style being the street name & wether it is the 1st, 2nd, 3rd, etc (I.e. Summerland 2). Now stops are named as Summerland Cct after Gallagher, which is similar to the old ways.


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Kramden

Yeah, I noticed the cross street of Stuart/Strzelecki yesterday.  A 'fail' on my part.  Still, it's a great looking old shelter and I hope it makes it in the book.

smitho

Anyone guess where there is a bus waiting shelter in the ACT with functioning toilets attached?

Hint: It is no longer serviced by scheduled bus services....seating capacity of the shelter is somewhat more than the large one at the Botanical Gardens..

743

A belated contribution from me if it helps: start at Dickson Shops and spiral out along all the routes that go from there. Some interesting finds are:

Pegs

Plenty of pegs through Lyneham, Hackett, Ainslie and Braddon. One yellow/black one still has SIGNAL BUS painted on, it's in Ainslie on Officer Cr between the two intersections with Hannan Cr. Hackett is full of blue/white SCHOOL SERVICES ONLY pegs on Mackenzie, Maitland and (southern) Rivett Sts - there are a couple in Watson too. One of the ones on Mackenzie St, near Hull Pl, is wearing away a bit to reveal that it actually started life as a red/white peg. There's also a peg on Phillip Ave opposite Dickson College which has been inserted upside-down so that AL BUS is the only thing sticking upwards out of the ground, although whether it started life out this way is debatable!

Bunkers

Watson - Antill St, south side, north-east of Knox St - this bunker still has a sign on it saying Route 383 stops there between certain hours between Monday and Saturday.

Hackett - Madigan St opp the southern intersection with Maitland St - has one of the painting competition signs saying it was painted by Hackett Primary - not overly remarkable but this school no longer exists so it's a record of educational history if you will.

Hackett - Phillip Ave near Stott St - the inside is painted (and was done by the Young Quakers in 1993 I think) with the "Windows of Peace", a series of extra windows the same size as the two standard bunker ones looking out onto, well, peace.

Ainslie - Majura Ave near Officer Cr - another internally painted one. This one even has a SIGNAL BUS peg painted on!

There are a couple of other painted bunkers along Cowper St between Dickson and Braddon, including one with fairly good artwork of that local church that used to be a railway station.

Ainslie - Officer Cr - from memory there are a couple here with seat-backs. Also the one opposite Dickson Shops on Cowper St has one.

Lyneham/O'Connor - Miller St, eastern side - there are three bunkers in a row with seat-backs, then a fourth that has a metal 'grille' type seat, like what school fences used to be made out of.

Other shelters

There are two wooden hut style shelters along Route 2/936 in Ainslie, one on Officer Cr near Hawdon St and the other on Campbell St near Leslie St. There's also a big'un on Cowper St west-ish of the shops.

Somewhere on Boldrewood or Miller Sts near the O'Connor/Turner border there is a blue shelter which kind of looks like a cross-section of an open umbrella if you look at it from the side, I can't recall seeing too many of those around, although I could be mistaken as there are still some suburbs I've never been through 20 months after moving here. A smaller version of this shelter in a cream colour is at the National Zoo and Aquarium.

Too many signs

From memory, one of the stops at Chisholm Shops has about seven different bus stop signs or variants thereof, all for the one location!

Kramden

#44
Noticed an interesting, possibly one-off type stop, on Antill - left after Phillip Ave when coming from Dickson College.

The stop is a normal bunker but alongside is an orange seat made from what looks like the same material as used in the original bunker seats.  I've not seen this combination anywhere else.

And a question about bunkers while I have your attention.  Did they orginally have windows or some sort of plastic screening fitted in them? The frame where the hole is on the side looks like it was made to have optional 'glass' put in.  Obviously not actual glass but some kind of tough plastic-based compound, think: Perspex?? (spelling) may have been used back in the day.   Just curious.

Hope the book is going well.


Buzz Killington

Quote from: Kramden on October 17, 2011, 08:30:47 PM
And a question about bunkers while I have your attention.  Did they orginally have windows or some sort of plastic screening fitted in them. The frame where the hole is on the side looks like it was made to have optional 'glass' put in.  Obviously not actual glass but some kind of tough plastic-based compound, think: Perspex?? (spelling) may have been used back in the day.   Just curious.

There's still some bunkers around the place with perspex 'windows' in them. Generally pretty filthy and not much good for looking through.

route56

Thanks for the tip Kramden, i will go and check it out.

The bunkers originally came with windows. i'd love to see a photo of one new, in colour. When i print off my first draft im going to go through the ratec material and see what they have. ideally i want to use my own photos first, then gap fill with historical photos.

If anyone knows of one with the perspex intact please let me know. If it has the old logo as well... i'll name you in the credits!

route56

Which reminds me, can someone post a really good photo of the Floriade bus stop sign - im not gonna have time to get out there and photograph it.

Has this sign changed over the years or is this the first year they have printed a special floriade one ?

King of Buses

A painted bunker is at the Holder Shops. Not much, but it is okay.

Buzz Killington

Quote from: route56 on October 18, 2011, 12:39:28 AM
Which reminds me, can someone post a really good photo of the Floriade bus stop sign - im not gonna have time to get out there and photograph it.

Has this sign changed over the years or is this the first year they have printed a special floriade one ?



According to the metadata, this photo was taken on 14 September 2007.

route56

Thanks for that photo. Is the current Floriade sign the same one ?

Bunker plans from the RATEC shed:


On the last 670 tour there was a guy from Melbourne, does anyone have his email address ? He shot quite a few photos of the bunker plans, with a much better camera than my box brownie.



smitho

I'll post some recent arrivals and departures (of bunkers) on the 'Where Have all the Bunkers Gone" page...

Barry Drive

Quote from: Buzz Killington on October 17, 2011, 09:15:57 PM
There's still some bunkers around the place with perspex 'windows' in them. Generally pretty filthy and not much good for looking through.
Not many around. The only one I've seen recently is outside Latham Primary School: both windows still intact.

smitho

The 'tin shelter' opposite the Hotel Statesman in Theodore St, Curtin (southbound), was removed several weeks ago.

smitho

New Adshel installed this week in Soward Way northbound, between Anketell St and Drakefdord Drive, Greenway. Work on two other Adshels in Greenway recently completed...at Athllon Drive southbound,  before Anketell, and at Anketell southbound adjoining Harris Scarfe's.

Kramden

#55
Only a small point of difference but while running a 904 through Weetangera yesterday I noticed that the bunkers on Shumack St are painted in a much brighter orange than most others I've seen.  Perhaps they've had a clean, a recent paint job or the mix of orange is different to what's been used elsewhere.

Obviously it was a light pax load and I had the capacity to be observant of such fine detail.  Such is the case with many weekend runs.

743

Quote from: ACTbusspotter on November 05, 2011, 07:42:12 PM
Not many around. The only one I've seen recently is outside Latham Primary School: both windows still intact.

There are a couple in Lyneham. One on Mouat St opposite Archibald St, the other just around the corner in Archibald St. I'm fairly sure one of those still has both windows too.

King of Buses

Quote from: smitho on November 05, 2011, 10:30:08 PM
The 'tin shelter' opposite the Hotel Statesman in Theodore St, Curtin (southbound), was removed several weeks ago.

that has been gone for months. Not weeks.

smitho

Thanks for that correction; wonder where it has gone to. Sims Metal may be?

Kramden

#59
While running a 67 service last night I noticed some blue and white bus stop signs.  They are located on Heagney and Deamer Sts Richardson/Chisholm area.  What makes them stand out is that they have the street name in bold typeface and that they are blue with white writing. Not a lot of them around.

Kramden

Quote from: route56 on October 18, 2011, 12:34:26 AM

If anyone knows of one with the perspex intact please let me know.

Apart from the one(s) mentioned by ACTbuspotter in the Latham area, Onslow?? or O'Loghlen??, I notice that the first stop on Leverrier (Belco bound) in the AIS precinct would be a good example.  It appears 'cleaner' than the those in Latham.  Also - and I can't swear to this on a stack of bibles - but a hurried glance at one of the colourful bunkers at the Bruce CIT looked like it had windows intact.  Even if not, those two CIT stops are worthy of inclusion due to their unique artwork.

Hope your project is going well.

Sir Pompously

Quote from: Kramden on December 06, 2011, 08:46:19 AM
While running a 67 service last night I noticed some blue and white bus stop signs.  They are located on Heagney and Deamer Sts Richardson/Chisholm area.  What makes them stand out is that they have the street name in bold typeface and that they are blue with white writing. Not a lot of them around.
Pretty sure these were the ones before the Yellow signs of similar appearance. You will also find some in Isabella Plains. Some signs also had an attachment sign "Commuter Express Services stop here".

smitho

Quote from: Kramden on December 06, 2011, 08:46:19 AM
While running a 67 service last night I noticed some blue and white bus stop signs.  They are located on Heagney and Deamer Sts Richardson/Chisholm area.  What makes them stand out is that they have the street name in bold typeface and that they are blue with white writing. Not a lot of them around.

Hey Kramden, aren't they just the standard Commuter Express bus-stop signs which you will have driven past on many parts of the ACTION network, northside & southside? (They needed to be a disatinctive colour scheme as the former Commuter Express services only stopped at these distinctively identified stops).

As always, there are exceptions such as the northbound stop on Wentworth Ave opposite the railway station...it is a commuter express stop but identified with a unique style of black and yellow sign; the equivalent stop on the opposite side of the road had a standard yellow peg, but this peg was removed and the stop de-commissioned in the early days of Redex.

Kramden

Quote from: smitho on December 07, 2011, 12:26:13 AM
Hey Kramden, aren't they just the standard Commuter Express bus-stop signs which you will have driven past on many parts of the ACTION network, northside & southside? (They needed to be a disatinctive colour scheme as the former Commuter Express services only stopped at these distinctively identified stops).


In the case of Heagney and Deamer I think not. They are just regular bus stops from what I can see with no special notification re: 'Commuter Express'.  I do however, know what you're getting at.  I've seen a 'Commuter Express' sign on Moynihan St in Evatt. 

Buzz Killington

#64
Quote from: Kramden on December 06, 2011, 08:46:19 AM
While running a 67 service last night I noticed some blue and white bus stop signs.  They are located on Heagney and Deamer Sts Richardson/Chisholm area.  What makes them stand out is that they have the street name in bold typeface and that they are blue with white writing. Not a lot of them around.

Like this?


Kramden

Quote from: Buzz Killington on December 07, 2011, 04:48:08 PM
Like this?


Note: an image was in the original post.

Yes BK, but the ones on Heagney and Deamer are double, i. e. they have two narrow rectangular blue and white signs, one on top of the other.  I'd be interested to know of other locations that have this kind of signage.  They seem fairly rare.

Irisbus Rider

Without getting too specific, there are a couple in Gilmore, Richardson, Theodore, Calwell, and Isabella Plains. Hop on a 11/111, and you'll see plenty en-route. It seems as though these bus stops were typically installed in suburbs developed in the mid-late 80's, not to mention a rare few scattered around Canberra that I recall seeing, however, unfortunately, I can't cite their specific locations.

Buzz Killington

Used to be quite prolific in Kambah too along the old 710/711 routes.

From memory some are still in Gordon on Preddey Way, Clare Dennis Ave and Lewis Luxton Av

smitho

Quote from: Kramden on December 07, 2011, 12:36:17 AM
In the case of Heagney and Deamer I think not. They are just regular bus stops from what I can see with no special notification re: 'Commuter Express'.  I do however, know what you're getting at.  I've seen a 'Commuter Express' sign on Moynihan St in Evatt.

Yes, I see what you're saying. From memory, most (ifg not all) of these types of sign / blade are numbered as is evident in the photo above. There is one stop on the route 11 northbound through Isabella Plains where there is both a blue sign and a yellow sign, with the signs straddling each side of a residential driveway...curious!

Buzz Killington

There's a mobile library bus zone/stop sign on Furzer St Woden - not sure if the other libraries around town have them

Bus 400

The one shelter I think has been missed is the one on Ainsworth Street in Swinger Hill. It is built into the cutting with Butters Drive sitting on top.

lukeo25

the narabundah lane shelter be4 TGA woden bound has been removed

Bus 400

The Bimberi Youth Detention Centre Terminus features a new (user) plastic bus shelter.

So one of the quietest terminus no features 2 metal bench seats & a plastic shelter.


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smitho

Quote from: Bus 400 on January 10, 2012, 05:30:46 PM
The Bimberi Youth Detention Centre Terminus features a new (user) plastic bus shelter.

So one of the quietest terminus no features 2 metal bench seats & a plastic shelter.


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Interesting...Is it the same el cheapo type which uised to be on Narrabundah Lane?

Bus 400

Quote from: smitho on January 10, 2012, 09:45:05 PM
Interesting...Is it the same el cheapo type which uised to be on Narrabundah Lane?
Below is a photo of it:



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smitho

#75
Thanks Julian; it looks as if it is the one that was at Narrabundah Lane. Gee, they're a monstrosity of a bus shelter.

I've seen them around the outer suburbs of Adelaide (eg, Main South Road northbound at O'Halloran Hill). In Adelaide, they tend to get a warped appearance after a while, as if they've started to melt in the hot summer sun! Cheap and VERY nasty....

Thanks by the way, for following up that query I had re Deakin bunker @ Hospital northbound.

route56

Some time in the next week I'm heading over to Ainsworth Avenue, Swinger Hill to take some photos of a unique bus stop. Are there any other bus stops of note around that area i should look at while I'm there ? Location details will help.

Barry Drive

There's a painted shelter also in Ainsworth St (Woden bound) across from the school. The only others of interest nearby are the new CAM shelters on Athllon Dr near the depot.

Buzz Killington


Bus 400

Have you been over to the shelter outside Scullin Primary on Ross Smith Crescent? It looks to be the only type in Canberra that I have seen.



Bus 400

The bunker on Kent Street near the Deakin Exchange/Deakin High School/original Woden Valley entrance features a blue metal seat inside.

route56

I think that riotact post is a practical joke. its a school bus peg, which i suspect some japester has stolen and placed there.

Barry Drive

No, it's not. It's a genuine SIGNAL BUS peg. School bus-only pegs, if any exist anymore (which I doubt), are a different colour. The theory that's it's been installed for dementia sufferers is credible.

Sir Pompously

Goodwin in Monash has the same setup in the dementia section with a "SIGNAL BUS" peg next to a seat in one of the courtyards. I love how some people are complaining of cost. Chances are the street furniture would have been placed there anyway and the peg is at no cost to the current Government as it is just re-used!

Buzz Killington

Quote from: ACTbusspotter on February 28, 2013, 12:51:26 AM
School bus-only pegs, if any exist anymore (which I doubt), are a different colour.

There's two on the part of Boddington Crescent not serviced by the 60/160.

There also used to be some at the top of Livingston Ave and on McTaggart Crescent - would have to check to see if they are still there.

743

Quote from: ACTbusspotter on February 28, 2013, 12:51:26 AM
No, it's not. It's a genuine SIGNAL BUS peg. School bus-only pegs, if any exist anymore (which I doubt), are a different colour. The theory that's it's been installed for dementia sufferers is credible.

Yep. Newcastle Buses also assist local aged care facilities with internal bus stop setups.

There are many blue and white "School Services Only" pegs scattered throughout Hackett and Watson.

Buzz Killington

#87
Quote from: Buzz Killington on February 28, 2013, 06:04:28 PM
There also used to be some at the top of Livingston Ave and on McTaggart Crescent - would have to check to see if they are still there.

Both blue and white 'school services only' pegs are still in place on Livingston Avenue.

Of the two bus stops on McTaggart Crescent, one of the school pegs is still in place, the other and has gone. According to Google Maps, the missing peg is at #38, the one still in place is just near the intersection with Coghill Cl (although both pegs appear on Google Maps)

smitho

Southern end of Strickland in Deakin has a white/blue peg.

Barry Drive

#89
Reviving an old topic: several bus stops will be decommissioned in just over one week's time. The most notable ones are located on Bimbimbie St, Bruce which have served UC (and before it CCAE) since the 1970's. Hope that, if they get removed a new location can be found for them.

Other stops which will no longer be serviced:

  • the bunkers on Leveririer Cr outside the AIS
  • Torrens Terminus (Basedow St)
  • the heritage shelter at Arthur Circle / Monaro Cres
  • Manuka Shops (Franklin St) - although Qcity may keep using it

smitho

Some (possibly most?) of these stops will be serviced by school runs still - for example, the S/R 488 to St Clare College will continue to use the Torrens Terminus.

vnguyen

There is also the stop inside Geoscience Australia which won't be used anymore.

Bus 400

I'm going through some bus stop data & a few historical significant stops no longer being serviced include:

Fibro thing Langton Crescent (opposite Treasury)
Bunkers on King George Terrace (outside Old Parliament House)

If I find any, I'll add them to this post.

King of Buses

Quote from: Bus 400 on August 24, 2014, 05:13:52 PM
Fibro thing Langton Crescent (opposite Treasury)
Bunkers on King George Terrace (outside Old Parliament House)

If you happen to be out taking photos of these stops/to add to this list, the set of stops out the back on Queen Victoria Tce with old ACTION blades will be upgraded to new stops (or have been). Maybe transplanted NXTBUS blades from the stops out the front of Old Parliament House will appear here as well as on Federation Mall for the new route 1.

Bus 400

At the present stage, those stops on Queen Victoria Terrace aren't on the GTFS file. So they may not be serviced, to begin with.

Re: (Soon To Be) ex-NXTBUS Blades, I think the 200-300 odd old blades will be scrapped & the 50 odd new blades made for the new stops.

vnguyen

The bus stops on Matina St near Wambool St got a note up saying it won't be used in the new network. From memory those stops have not been used in years.

Also there is a stop on Sturt Ave (service lane) opposite of McIntyre St which still has the old bus stop blade on it. It didn't have any notes up on it as far as I can see.

Bus 400

#96
For 2 more days, the 935 will head around that part of Narrabundah, ending a 40-50 year (if not more) bus service in the area (in previous years buses can into Narrabundah around the back of the shops before heading to the terminus).

That stop on the service lane was previously serviced by a school service. Same for the blue seat further down the lane. You'll also see a few pegs on Matina Street between the Narrabundah Terminus & Fyshwick Markets.

smitho

Quote from: Bus 400 on August 24, 2014, 05:13:52 PM
I'm going through some bus stop data & a few historical significant stops no longer being serviced include:

Fibro thing Langton Crescent (opposite Treasury)
Bunkers on King George Terrace (outside Old Parliament House)

If I find any, I'll add them to this post.

You are right about Langton Cres and King George Tce stops being historic; they were very busy with buses prior to the "new" Parlt House and associated roads being opened. King Edward Tce was not nearly as important for buses as there were fewer work places and national institutions in the vicinity compared with today.

King Edward Tce used to have a few sharp kinks in it and was more of a minor road than it is noday.

smitho

Quote from: Bus 400 on August 24, 2014, 06:28:23 PM
For 2 more days, the 935 will head around that part of Narrabundah, ending a 40-50 year (if not more) bus service in the area (in previous years buses can into Narrabundah around the back of the shops before heading to the terminus).

That stop on the service lane was previously serviced by a school service. Same for the blue seat further down the lane. You'll also see a few pegs on Matina Street between the Narrabundah Terminus & Fyshwick Markets.

I understand that Narrabundah Terminus will continue to be serviced by the 935. Appears that Fyshwick Terminus will also continue to be served by weekend runs.

Buzz Killington

I've added a new page to the website - a listing of all* bus stops.

* - sourced from the Google Transit feed, so 'schools only' stops aren't listed. If I can find an easier way of finding those numbers than going through NXTBUS, I'll add them in at a later stage.

Feedback welcomed!

vnguyen

The 4 stops in Fyshwick 2 on Gladstone St and the Townsville St won't be used any more.

smitho

New, yet-to-be-opened city-bound bus stop on the Cotter Rd at the Streeton Drive intersection is a puzzle...just why you'd place a stop at such a location is a bit obscure to me.

King of Buses

Quote from: smitho on September 08, 2014, 11:16:39 PM
New, yet-to-be-opened city-bound bus stop on the Cotter Rd at the Streeton Drive intersection is a puzzle...just why you'd place a stop at such a location is a bit obscure to me.

Sounds a bit like that stop under the Monaro Hwy bridge on Canberra Avenue for the 200. Although they'd probably say Narrabundah residents would use that even though to get to it they'd have to cross that drainway and line of trees. Stop 1825 on Anketell St at Pitman Street has also closed recently. It was open (and shown on NXTBUS) last week on Monday but wasn't yesterday. Blades and road markings were gone too. Makes some sense as Tuggy Interchange is just round the corner, but many people got out there for the shopping strip there...

The Love Guru

#103
Too many complaints about buses not being able to stop there due to cars always parked in the stop. Remove the stop and the complaints disappear! It was an issue with enforcement of parking rules rather than anything ACTION wanted to do. I'm sure if the cars weren't an issue the stop would have remained in service.