With the Custom Coaches website noting that delivery of these vehicles commencing next month, seemed like a good time to start a thread to collate all the information, rumours and whatnot.
We've previously learned that these vehicles have been allocated a series of fleet numbers commencing at Bus 500.
Do you by any chance mean 14.5m Scanias?
Whoops.. Can you tell I got up very early today!
Yeah, I am high on Coffee so that is what I will be like tomorrow because it will be a while before I sleep tonight.
According to the December edition of Transit Australia, the first Scania 14.5 should be on the road by late January 2010. It reports that ACTION has ordered 24 Scania K 310UB Euro Vs - eight vehicles will be delivered per year over 3 years.
Looking at Scania's website though, the Euro V model may actually be K 320UB.
awesome, I have heard that the first few will be stored at Woden until the Tennis court at Tuggies is removed.
Quote from: Lemon on December 02, 2009, 08:50:30 PM
awesome, I have heard that the first few will be stored at Woden until the Tennis court at Tuggies is removed.
what?!?!
there is a tennis court at tuggy depot and they are removing it so that they can increase the capacity of the depot.
I know there's a tennis court, I was expressing surprise that they would remove it.
ah, okay then
Quote from: Martin on December 02, 2009, 01:23:35 PM
According to the December edition of Transit Australia, the first Scania 14.5 should be on the road by late January 2010. It reports that ACTION has ordered 24 Scania K 310UB Euro Vs - eight vehicles will be delivered per year over 3 years.
Looking at Scania's website though, the Euro V model may actually be K 320UB.
You're 100% correct there, here's a scan from 'ABCs Bus Directory 2009' re the Scania specs;(https://www.actbus.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh175%2FRJT-RR-GR%2FScaniaSpecs.jpg&hash=cd35e77c97e200b2955c6c56744e2f498faf0b2e)
Please mind the crappy scanner, but I hope it clears things up a bit.
Also, shame to hear about the tennis courts at Tuggies.
First delivery may now be in February.
Thats stupid, how can they only deliver 8 buses to ACTION a year when CDC gets batches of like 30 14.5's in one go?
Because Volgren get their shite together. Plus, I'm sure there is a dedicated production line just for CDC, as there is one for STA at CC.
But, you do have a point, it isn't the first time bus deliveries have been delayed. Perhaps it's time for ACTION to stray away from CC?
Well recently CDC has purchased quite a lot of CC scanias, again with next to no delay.
Hmmm, interesting. I'm not sure, maybe ACTION isn't seen as a 'significant' client of CCs, very bad business management if that is the case. Mind you, this is all speculation.
On a sidenote, how many B7s will CDC be getting?
Did you guys ever stop and think that ACTION are getting 8 a year simply because that is how many ACTION have asked to be delivered per year?
I doubt very much it has anything to do with chassis supply or body building limitations.
I was talking to a driver and he told me the delivery of the steertags had been delayed, due to a problem or issue relating to spare parts at the adelaide factory were the buses are being built and now the orders have been diverted to sydney factory. Custom Coaches not that reliable, hey. :'(
It has been sighted in Adelaide with the fleet number 464 not 500.
http://busaustralia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48308&start=50 (http://busaustralia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48308&start=50)
We should see it and 406-408 soon. All have been sighted on the road in Adelaide recently
They've been posting about ACTION buses for days
Photo of a 14.5 is here http://actbus.net/forum/index.php?topic=2225.msg19792#new
Looks a bit odd, but I'm sure they'll be great to ride
Ed reports that Bus 464 has arrived at Tuggeranong depot.
It seems that 464 will make a trip up to Sydney for repairs. The steering wheel will not lock into place when adjusted.
Well, we're off to a good start then.. ::)
The contract for the 26 Scanias is on the ACT Government contract website (http://www.procurement.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0013/112711/C09139_-_Scania_Draft_Agrgeement_-_Final_-_Confidential_Text.pdf).
The contract has 13 for delivery in 2010, 9 in 2011 and 4 in 2012.
Also note that the body specifications has McConnell Urban seats (bench style) rather than Centra seats, with a capacity of 53 seated and 48 standing.
That's a real shame we're not getting our last 4 14.5m buses until 2012, which seems like such a long way away at this stage. It would be much better to get the in a clump. Who knows, by 2012, they should have the CB80 body (which was supposed to become the standard body for all CC orders after 2010/2011 IIRC from the CC tour).
Bench seats? That would mean they'll be the first bench seats in a new ACTION since 982 was delivered in 1993?!
464 is off to Sydney on Monday and it will return on Friday. Apparently the seating arrangement is very different to what we are used to.
Quote from: King Long on January 31, 2010, 11:23:45 PM
It has been sighted in Adelaide with the fleet number 464 not 500.
http://busaustralia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48308&start=50 (http://busaustralia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48308&start=50)
We should see it and 406-408 soon. All have been sighted on the road in Adelaide recently
They've been posting about ACTION buses for days
If you think about it, 464 is the perfect fleet number for the first 14.5m Scania.. the numbers add up to 14.
Ha Ha, very funny
Well, somebody had a similar theory on why Redex was numbered 727 - because it runs from seven (am) to seven (pm)
Maybe we have a bit of a numbers geek at ACTION..
The image of the 14.5 in ACTION colours in the contract documents linked above is Bus 374, also adding to 14 ;)
Seems like a co-incidence to have 464 add up to 14, as that is just the next number from 463, which should be the last diesel MAN.
Still, that's quite hilarious, the fleet number of the first 14.5m bus adds up to 14!
464 arrived back in Canberra and was parked in Belconnen depot this evening. Had a good look over it, looks nice inside and very different from anything we have here before.
The Urban seats are narrower than the Centra seats, so this makes the aisle at the rear of the bus wider which can result in more room for standing passengers.
I wonder whether it is at Belconnen Depot to have a bike rack fitted? :)
Quote from: Martin on February 28, 2010, 12:08:22 PM
....so this makes the aisle at the rear of the bus wider which can result in more room for standing passengers.
Could this be the same reason why it is "reported" to have 6 wheelchair spaces? As when those seats are flipped up many more people can stand.
Quote from: Martin on February 28, 2010, 12:08:22 PM
I wonder whether it is at Belconnen Depot to have a bike rack fitted? :)
Couldn't you go by if a rear number plate is fitted?
It has only 2 wheelchair spaces. But it has 6 'bays' of fold-up seats mounted sideways - all before the centre door.
Quote from: Bus 400 on February 28, 2010, 12:39:19 PM
Couldn't you go by if a rear number plate is fitted?
The bus is not yet registered so it has no number plates - front or back.
Going by the contract for these buses Bus 465 should be with ACTION by weeks end. With 1 more due in a fortnight & after March 2010, things will slow down a bit.
Also according to the contract there are 4 wheelchair spaces, 5 rear seats & 2 mother & child spaces. With the old ticketing machines in the new buses should stop around July 2010
Sounds about right. According to Martin's twitter 464 was in the body bay for repairs, 464 is yet to be allocated a depot as well.
It seems they used 464 and 390 for something yesterday:
http://busaustralia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=49789 (http://busaustralia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=49789)
what routes will 464 operate on, becase I want a ride
You will have to wait until it is out and about to see what routes it would be on. It is like any bus, it could be on anything. However wild guess would be School Services, Red Ex (Because of the screen) and the Intertown. Just be patient, and your statement implies selfishness when you ask like that.
But if it has no bike rack, then it can't be used on Redex or Intertown as those routes are designated Bike n Ride routes.
Anyway, as can be seen in the photos, 464 now has a ticket machine so in theory it should be ready to go into service. But, if 390 is anything to go by, it could be months before it gets some proper use.
Quote from: Sir Pompously on March 10, 2010, 09:47:59 AM
You will have to wait until it is out and about to see what routes it would be on. It is like any bus, it could be on anything. However wild guess would be School Services, Red Ex (Because of the screen) and the Intertown. Just be patient, and your statement implies selfishness when you ask like that.
Rich kid = sense of entitlement.
Why don't you just get daddy to ring up his golf buddy Jon Stanhope and they'll have 464 come to your door and take you for a ride?
Quote from: Martin on March 10, 2010, 10:09:51 AM
Anyway, as can be seen in the photos, 464 now has a ticket machine so in theory it should be ready to go into service. But, if 390 is anything to go by, it could be months before it gets some proper use.
Also since it was for the Joint Transport Industry Dinner 2010, I would say that ACTION would of wanted these 2 buses to be seen what they would look like when in general use.
CNG, there is one chance coming up towards the end of March for you to ride Bus 464 with fellow bus enthusiasts.
An interesting fact that I wasn't aware of is that this steer tag buses were first designed to get around the old, tight streets of Europe.
I wonder when the tech sheet will be available from the ACTION site.
Apparently these buses won't be assigned to shifts for a few more weeks, while more drivers are trained on them. With a few more due over the next little while.
What do you mean more drivers? No drivers have trained on it yet.
One driver is, how else could Bus 464 get to Civic Square? Also the trainers are drivers, so they need to be trained to train the other drivers.
Launched was on WIN News last night; Chief Minister was interviewed and said that the artics would be phased out over the next 3 years while the steer tags were phased in.
Quote from: smitho on March 17, 2010, 01:23:22 PM
Launched was on WIN News last night; Chief Minister was interviewed and said that the artics would be phased out over the next 3 years while the steer tags were phased in.
That's a laugh. There is no way that the 14.5s even come close to replacing an artic. The total capacity of the bus is determined by tare weight being taken off the gross allowable weight and then a per pax allwonce.
Despite the claim they will hold 101 pax, there is no chance in hell of getting that many people onto it. Might work in asia where people are used to being squeezed and touching each other, it aint going to fly here. It is another half assed attempt by the stanhope govt to try and make out that they are wonderful for having these "cheap" buses. You pay for what you get, and in this case they have chose to replace artics that can genuinely hold 110 school kids with a bus that will be luck to get 85 on board.
I wish them the best luck with covering the artic school runs with these vehicles (also, route availability is going to be a major concern).
Like Redex with the man, they should only drive and use the steertags on the intertown run. As it is a busy and quite packed run and this bus would probably catter quite well for it. The artics should be keep't and dedicated to the school and expresso runs and the CNG's and irisbuses should be used on normal suburban runs aswell as the standards.
Quote from: CNG on March 17, 2010, 04:52:44 PM
The artics should be kept and dedicated to the school and expresso runs
Agreed.
Bus 465 is now on Tuggeranong Bricks
Quote from: Bus 400 on March 16, 2010, 07:44:53 PM
I wonder when the tech sheet will be available from the ACTION site.
The specifications are now available on ACT Bus: http://actbus.net/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=852&Itemid=69 (http://actbus.net/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=852&Itemid=69)
465 was on the Tuggy bricks this morning....
466 should be there (Martin's twitter feed)
Ed reports 467 is at Tuggy, both the others now have number plates.
Saw 468 out at Woden Depot tonight & the front windscreen looks quite dirty, I wonder how that occurred.
hmmm, gee I wonder if driving it half way across a desert had anything to do with it!!!
But then why didn't 400 (at least) arrive dirty?
it did! Every bus has arrived dirty!
Does this look dirty to you?
(https://www.actbus.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi611.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ftt193%2FBus400%2FACTION-MAN%252018320%2FBUS400CohenStreetBusStation.jpg&hash=0f5d5d2c63b24ed9124f7665d776641fb5b9494f)
The delivery driver is bringing Bus 400 into Belconnen Depot & as such into ACTION possession for the first time.
if you look at the front....
I don't have a picture of it arriving as when I saw her approaching I thought it was one of the others on normal routes. She wasn't as bad as 468, I'll try & grab a picture of 468 tomorrow as well as 417 & 418 & the other 2 MAN's at Woden.
If you did some quick research you'd know that there are currently locust plauges around in western NSW, and as such the front to bus would be covered in 1000s of grasshoppers.
Ed reported that 464 was in service this morning. No route number but was a single digit (one would assume 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 as they are unable to operate 3s)
Quote from: Stacka on April 27, 2010, 06:48:41 PM
Ed reported that 464 was in service this morning. No route number but was a single digit (one would assume 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 as they are unable to operate 3s)
Not sure where you're getting your info from Zac but it is way off the mark. Route 3 is on the approved list that the depots have been provided, whilst routes 6 and 9 are not on the list.
Would Route 9 not be on the list due to the RMC speed humps?
Route 9 would not be on the list because no-one catches it and a 100-person capacity bus might be a little much to carry 2 passengers.
Not sure if 4 or 8 are on the list either - for the same reason (will have to find that list again).
Saw 464 doing a southbound Route 5 on Goyder St, Narrabundah at around 0905 this morning.
4 & 8 are approved routes. As are all Intertowns, Xpressos, Redex and a few others. No weekend or school routes are on the list.
Quote from: Bus 400 on April 23, 2010, 11:17:43 PM
I don't have a picture of it arriving as when I saw her approaching I thought it was one of the others on normal routes. She wasn't as bad as 468, I'll try & grab a picture of 468 tomorrow as well as 417 & 418 & the other 2 MAN's at Woden.
I didn't know buses had a gender! ::)
and been a MAN bus wouldn't it be a he?
Maybe the Irisbus is an transgender bus? :mono:
Hate to see a Scania and a MAN mating, as you would end up seeing a ScanMANia. ::) >:D
I'm interested to know: now that 464 is in service (with 465 to follow shortly), is it being used on services where the extra capacity is actually required? Has anyone been on it yet where passengers have been standing/all seats have been taken?
yesterday the 315 it was doing was pretty full, all seats were taken and there was some standers
I've been told 469 is at Woden.
Steer tag driver training appears to have started at Tuggeranong although nothing formally announced yet about a training program...
The number 5 this am, packed to the rafters
It was on a southbound 315 to Tuggeranong that arrived around 1620 and another 315 north at about 1640.
Damn my working hours , but i'll keep an eye out for it :)
A fellow board member use to have a northbound Spence run in the previous shifts just 10 minutes before that. In a MAN CNG, it would be packed leaving the City (vaguely remember some passengers having to be left behind in the City due to loading). The passengers did thin out a little after leaving Belconnen Interchange (it was Belconnen Interchange back then). So going by that I would say the 14.5 is being put to good use.
The 315 tonight was rather busy. Lots of standers, but that is what the bus was made for!
Saying there are people standing isn't exactly an accurate reflection of the number of folks on board. After all, a .3 will seat just as many. I'm still waiting to hear that any driver has got 101 people on board LOL, and if it ever does happen (i actually believe it would be impossible if people wanted to breath and remain upright) i want to be the first one to take a photo, it would be hilarious.
There would have been at least 15 people standing, in saying that there was also at least five spare seats at the back of the bus....
Quote from: Chris_Guru on May 03, 2010, 07:52:14 PM
Saying there are people standing isn't exactly an accurate reflection of the number of folks on board. After all, a .3 will seat just as many. I'm still waiting to hear that any driver has got 101 people on board LOL, and if it ever does happen (i actually believe it would be impossible if people wanted to breath and remain upright) i want to be the first one to take a photo, it would be hilarious.
Can a .3 fit the same number of persons as a steer tag.
Should make a steertag Irisbus agoraline, I wounder how that would work
Quote from: CNG on May 04, 2010, 07:56:22 AM
Can a .3 fit the same number of persons as a steer tag.
Should make a steertag Irisbus agoraline, I wounder how that would work
To be honest, i don't think there is that much more capacity in the 14.5 due to its layout. Someone was trying to justify the purchase of them as an artic replacement so removed the seats to increase the number of pax that could fit onborad. In the front section of the bus they have calculated people standing 3 abreast, of course there are only 2 handles to hang onto, so i'm not sure what the piggy in the middle is supposed to hang on to.
These buses are the worst purchase ACTION have made. They are a great vehicle, but totally impractical for our use. They are suited only to the intertown runs, have major route restrictions and can't have a bike rack fitted. They will never replace the artics as they can't go to many schools due to route restrictions. I will have a guess that we'll see replacement artics evaluated in the very near future.
And its only in use 5 hours a day, 5 days a week. How does that make economical sense?
So how is it that ACTION continues to make such woeful fleet choices ....... darts, irisbus, scania 14.5m ..... poor management, political intervention ...
I don't see any money on the horizon for new artics, and the majority of the present artic fleet are beyond 20 years old .....
Refurbishing the artics has been mentioned in the past. We may well see that occur, at least as a stop-gap solution.
Absolutely, I agree the 14.5m buses are not appropriate for use at ACTION, a very ill-conceived plan.
Quote from: geoffrahI don't see any money on the horizon for new artics, and the majority of the present artic fleet are beyond 20 years old .....
It seems as though this problem is not just restricted to Canberra but is widespread throughout the country, Metro Tasmania are still operating artics from 1984, and the STA and Adelaide Metro go one better, with artics from 1983, but Transperth take the cake, still having artics in operation from the very early 80's, so it's more than likely ACTION will hold onto these for as long as possible, as in the scope of things, these are considerably 'young'.
It seems as though government operations who don't particularly want to purchase new artics simply use them as much as they can, and run them into the ground. This, in particular, is the method they have adopted at Metro Tas, they will continue to use them until government policy restrics them to keep doing so (30 y/o operation limit). Mind you, their artics (as well as the STA artics and others, I'm sure) have received a refurbishment, something which wouldn't go astray for our artics.
And, approx two years ago, IIRC, there was a budget allocation for artic refurbishment, did this occur (running gear only) or was it shelved?
Quote from: Irisbus Rider on May 05, 2010, 10:09:38 PM
but Transperth take the cake, still having artics in operation from the very early 80's, so it's more than likely ACTION will hold onto these for as long as possible, as in the scope of things, these are considerably 'young'.
The oldest Transperth artic entered service in August 1979. But it did receive an conversion in 1983 & 1993.
Quote from: Irisbus Rider on May 05, 2010, 10:09:38 PM
It seems as though government operations who don't particularly want to purchase new artics simply use them as much as they can, and run them into the ground. This, in particular, is the method they have adopted at Metro Tas, they will continue to use them until government policy restrics them to keep doing so (30 y/o operation limit). Mind you, their artics (as well as the STA artics and others, I'm sure) have received a refurbishment, something which wouldn't go astray for our artics.
Refurbishing the fleet in general wouldn't go astray! 100.3's, Irisbuses (You might aswell make them less crap and put a second door in, better yet just sell them to Tasmania), Artics and MkII Renaults all need a good makeover.
Artic's are needed to replace artics, there is no doubt about it. But it all comes down to costs. And what is seen as more cost effective in the short term certainly is not cost effective in the long term in the case of 14.5 vs. Artic.
don't sell the iris's
Good call, I see the mega list of reasons you have provided are enough to keep them in Canberra.
They are non standard ACTION vehicles, the cab is not ACTION spec, the fact that they do not have a centre door but are used on the Intertown is a big problem when loading/unloading. They are mechanically unfit, the amount of times I have been on a route where we have slipped into lateness because the bus was so slow, hearing that engine struggling. They are slow, jerky, they overheat in the summertime with a percentage more than any other ACTIOIN vehicle. You head past Belconnen Depot and see how many Irisbuses, by weekends end, are up by the workshops! When you get on a good Irisbus it can be great, but the majority are just horrible.
I love the irisbuses, when Im an action driver expect to see me in the irisbuses or .3's
As much as you love them, they are the most unreliable, unsuitable pieces of crap that I've ever ridden on.
On another note, although I inspected it a few months back, I had my first trip on 464 today and they are certainly no replacement for artics, passenger wise. Take most of the seats out of the front of a L94UB or a Renault and you'll fit extra people in those too.
I found the seats quite comfortable, although I thought the engine sounded like a gruntier cross between an Iris and a L94UB.
Another Scania 14.5 has been transferred to Woden, but this one is registered.
That would be 465 - it has left B depot (for now?). Also can confirm 469 is at Woden.
It looks like Bus 464 has broken down as it is empty on the side of Ginninderra Drive (near Kingsford Smith Drive).
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LOL! whoops
Bus 464 is on a 314 in the City around 17:20 this week. Now there was quite a long line of people boarding this service at City Interchange, with it taking atleast 2 traffic light loops & people were still boarding (I suspect there might of been a boarding issue to take that long).
Bus 464's engine has clocked up 227 hours as of tonight.
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My Dad's Regular 788 Bus Driver says that 14.5s cannot drive through suburbs at the moment due to something with the bus licences? If it's been on a 5 it confuses me
The 14.5's are only permitted on certain routes due to their size. Route 5 is presumably one of those routes.
Quote from: MyWay on April 28, 2010, 08:20:07 PM
4 & 8 are approved routes. As are all Intertowns, Xpressos, Redex and a few others. No weekend or school routes are on the list.
Spotto'd 464 today, doing a 300 of some sort. It was leaving belco at 330pm.
Bus 466 out on driver training today, has no ticket equipment yet.
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Bus 470 has arrived at Woden Depot this week.
http://www.legislation.act.gov.au/ni/2010-100/current/pdf/2010-100.pdf (http://www.legislation.act.gov.au/ni/2010-100/current/pdf/2010-100.pdf)
gives you a good idea where the 14.5 buses can travel in the ACT
Wow, just looking in that PDF there are alot of major roads for major routes, that have restrictions during peak hours when the buses are most likely to be used. So can someone tell me the point of purchasing 14.5's again?
What about the fact that the buses can only leave Woden Depot during peak hours as all the exits at Belconnen & Tuggeranong Depot's can't be used during peak time.
I don't think they thought through this purchase very well..........
465 was in service today. Spotted doing a northbound 315 from Tuggy around 4.45pm.
I saw it on that run too - it was on Melrose at around 1700. The next northbound intertown was a Mk1 on the 313, then 464 was on a 314.
Other way around I think you will find, 464 entered the depot with 315 on the desto
While @ Belco Depot this am around 0740, saw 465 being prepared to do a 312...
It was doing a 312 (i think) about 0930 this morning spotted it southbound on Yarra Glen.
Metrobus reports via Twitter that 466 has been moved to Belconnen.
467 now at Belconnen
466 is in service.
As reported first on my twitter feed. Picture coming later
Yeah, sorry. Saw your Tweet when I went to make one. I saw it heading north around 5:10.
Buses 468 & 469 have left Woden.
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I *think* I saw 467 in service, couldn't be sure though.
Quote from: Bus 400 on August 19, 2010, 05:58:16 PM
Buses 468 & 469 have left Woden.
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468 has been at Belconnen for weeks, 469 is a new arrival, 467 doesn't have a validator
Bus 468 was at the back of Tuggeranong Workshop this afternoon.
Oh?
This is an interesting development..
469 has left Belconnen I think.
I wonder when we are going to see artic retirements. I know Bus 700 has a little bit longer after spotting the new ticket equipment brackets installed.
That means nothing, most of the buses that have already been withdrawn had the equipment installed.
I wouldn't be expecting any artic withdrawls any time soon. The 14.5s are not a sufficient replacement for the artics and I think ACTION has recognised that. There are rumours that they are already looking at replacement artics.
Hey, come on Lemon, you must mean RUMOURS don't you!!!? (or RUMORS in Yank speak).
My browser has an auto correct on it, I did try to spell it, but it corrected me.....
Oh well, these things happen.
I had 337 'Wilhelmina' out yesterday; nice to back in a Scania after nearly a month...going pretty well still.
Between Homo's Roomers and the numerous Sauces on here, i think i've seen enough to validate my thoughts on the current state of the education system.
lol
Quote from: Metrobus on August 22, 2010, 06:21:51 PM
That means nothing, most of the buses that have already been withdrawn had the equipment installed.
I wouldn't be expecting any artic withdrawls any time soon. The 14.5s are not a sufficient replacement for the artics and I think ACTION has recognised that. There are rumours that they are already looking at replacement artics.
I believe they've been looking at some Mercedes artics
I dare say they will look at a few, possibly MAN and Scania, but as another board member has said, if they look at Volvos that is what they will buy because the B12BLEA is a superior vehicle to anything else in it's class
I wouldn't expect any artic withdrawals before the new network starts.
469 appears to have been transferred to Belco depot today.
I wish them good luck in getting the 14.5s approved for school runs because they'll need it.
Based on this alone, I doubt they'll withdraw any artics.
But how are speaking about the steer tags being for the Intertown run maybe new attics are on the table for next budget.
Also this may be a coincidence, but a few years back & asked what the fleet numbers for the attic replacements was to be & I was told 500. Well the next available fleet numbers are 491+.
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Quote from: Chris_Guru on August 22, 2010, 08:25:42 PM
Between Homo's Roomers and the numerous Sauces on here, i think i've seen enough to validate my thoughts on the current state of the education system.
:TODDLOL:
Bus 472 just arrived at Woden Depot.
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Ed reports that 468 has entered service out of tuggy
Yeah, 468 was wandering around T Depot first thing this morning and again in the afternoon, but didn't see any evidence of it actually working revenue runs...
I got home and 468 (well I assume it was it, a 14.5 on a tuggies run, must be it) came past on the 313 following the one I came home on.
468 was doing a northbound 318 at Torrens at around 0620 this morning, then observed dead running to T. Depot at around 1325 outside Woden Police Station.
468 now parked in Road zero within the main garage/shed at Tuggeranong while 470 was parked out adjacent to "the bricks" this morning - roughly where the vintage bus used to be stabled. Haven't seen 470 on the road yet.
468 was in revenue service again on Friday - have only ever seen it doing intertowns.
I spotto'd 468 Yesterday on an intertown :)
Caught 465 out of Civic today and sat in third row from back - surprised to hear how very noisy they are.
OK for gunzels but not for everyday commuters.
.... makes you wonder if the art of sound-proofing is being lost by modern-day coach builders.
Ed reports 473 is here
467 is either in service or is about to be.
470 now at Belconnen.
Has anybody noticed about the logos on the scania K32's?
464 and 466 have them with the logo after the word
and 465,467,468,469,470 have it like the MAN's.
Not sure about the other ones at Woden
468 is in service, just spotted it on a northbound 318 @ the skyplaza
Quote from: lukeo25 on September 14, 2010, 07:36:10 AM
468 is in service, just spotted it on a northbound 318 @ the skyplaza
It's been in service for two weeks.
*smacks head on wall* , nice to see a green bus without a ugly bike :)
467 was sighted on a southbound 318 this afternoon
yeah I saw it today flying past.
471 is at tuggy depot where the old heritage bus was (and 470)
471s disapeared
It's at Belconnen
Saw 471 on the road yesterday; looked like it was in revenue service.
That could have been the 6th tag steer at the Raiders game.
I'm 90% sure I saw 471 parked up the back of T Depot this morning
Quote from: Buzz Killington on September 18, 2010, 03:32:56 PM
I'm 90% sure I saw 471 parked up the back of T Depot this morning
It's at Tuggy
470 Looks ready with the exception of ticketing, which i assume will be myway
Quote from: Metrobus on September 22, 2010, 07:55:32 AM
470 Looks ready with the exception of ticketing, which i assume will be myway
I saw a mechanic driving it on Cameron Ave this morning.
474 has arrived at Woden depot.
471 was on the road today for Tuggy driver/mechanic training; still to be fully fitted up inside.
There appears that. buses 469 & 470 could be at Tuggeranong Depot as Buses 472+ are still at Woden (with registration plates attached), Buses 468 & 471 are in there spots at Tuggeranong & I spotted what appeared to be 2 diesel buses with registration plates on the front.
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Quote from: Bus 400 on October 03, 2010, 12:27:43 PM
There appears that. buses 469 & 470 could be at Tuggeranong Depot as Buses 472+ are still at Woden (with registration plates attached), Buses 468 & 471 are in there spots at Tuggeranong & I spotted what appeared to be 2 diesel buses with registration plates on the front.
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Yes, 470 was outside the workshops at around 1300 today; others inside.
Spotted 470 in service today; 469 is still with Tuggy workshops; 471 unknown - possibly also in service.
471 is being used for training.
Yes, I was trained on 471 last month.
471 has left its parking spot along the back fence at Tuggeranong. With 3 steer tags parked in Tuggeranong shed.
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471 was parked at Belconnen Depot today, not far from 430 (rear of the "Front workshop").
470 was at B. Depot this am, then back at T. Depot this afternoon.
469 just passed my house on a 313
Bus400 reported seeing 471 in service today (via Twitter). I may have seen it out on Wed, but am not 100% sure.
Ed reported it was having a few issues this afternoon.
Bus 473 is where the old ZIB 050 was at Tuggeranong Depot
464 has been parked in the old fuel lane at Belco for a few days now with hatches open and a big pile of kitty litter underneath. Apparently the gearbox shat itself.
Yeah, that was posted in the minor maintenance and repairs, they some how managed to tow it without ripping the arse out of it.
Saw 472 entering Belco Depot on Tuesday morning being driven by a workshop person; 473 has appeared out in the open at Tuggeranong Depot in last day or so....as King of Buses reports, was parked on the south-western side of the workshops as at this morning.
472-475 should all be Belconnen buses.
Bus 473 was out on Driver Training this afternoon going along the intertown route through City Bus Station.
Bus 473 out again today on Tuggeranong Depot driver training.
Bus 474 has been transferred to Tuggeranong Depot.
472 in service from T depot using MyWay only.
476 spotted in Narrandera today according to ACT Bus Spotter on Twitter.
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ACT BUS Spotter? It was Norbert
Quote from: Buzz Killington on January 18, 2011, 06:38:57 PM
476 spotted in Narrandera today according to ACT Bus Spotter on Twitter.
Quote from: Busn00b on January 18, 2011, 10:44:06 PM
ACT BUS Spotter? It was Norbert
Does Norbert (
ScaniaDriver) have an account on twitter? Norbert reported it on Facebook, I passed it on via twitter (and acknowledged it was Norbert who saw it).
I doubt he even uses twitter
Quote from: Busn00b on January 18, 2011, 10:44:06 PM
ACT BUS Spotter? It was Norbert
I said ACT Bus Spotter reported it on Twitter. Didn't say that he was the one who spotted it.
I'm pretty sure I saw 476 next to 475 at Woden Today around 11:30.
It's that or 474 is back at woden from Tuggers.
Quote from: King of Buses on January 21, 2011, 06:46:14 PM
I'm pretty sure I saw 476 next to 475 at Woden Today around 11:30.
It's that or 474 is back at woden from Tuggers.
It's both.
Bus 473 is finally released for service. Was available for Friday afternoon, but looks like it wasn't used. Expect to see it in service from B depot on Monday (14 feb).
Bus 477 arrived at Woden Depot this week.
Bus 478 arrived at Woden Depot this week.
Quote from: Bus 400 on March 05, 2011, 07:28:07 PM
Bus 478 arrived at Woden Depot this week.
Hooray! that brings ACTION's Total of #78 buses to 4
my favourite number is 78
474 looks like it entered service this week from B depot, although l haven't seen it on the road.
The following steer tags were stabled at the northern end of the Tuggeranong garage this afternoon:-
468, 469, 470, 471 and 475.
Another steer tag was parked down amongst the Renaults...didn't take note of its number.
Most likely 472 which has recently been at Belconnen for repairs. It appeared to have had a mirror pierced through it's RRHS corner.
Buses 480 & 481 shouldn't be too far arriving as both have been spotted in recent photos from the Custom Coaches Adelaide Factory.
These photos can be found in the Adelaide/SA photo section of busaustralia.com/forum page. The posts have been made by member "The Inspector"
Bus 478 is now at Tuggeranong Depot.
Was just about to report the same thing. Parked parallel to Athllon between the sheds and workshops.
Bus 480 is parked at Tuggeranong Depot.
Is there any sightings of 479 at Belconnen?
480 transferred by Tuggy trainers from WTD to Tuggy Depot on Wednesday morning, 28 Sept 11.
Spotted 479 in a northbound Intertown yesterday, around 1:30pm at City.
There was a very newish looking steer tag following me up Athllon Drive this morning...couldn't make out its number.
Would've made a good picture - I had 701 (nearly the oldest in the fleet) followed by one of the newest fleet members.
480 was being kitted out in the Tuggy Quick Fix area earlier this week; understand it will join the Tuggy steer tag fleet.
Bus 480 spotted in service this morning.
I've recently jumped off 480 & it's engine hours were 76 hours.
Saw 484 out on the road about a week ago and it appeared to be in revenue service; however it was back in Woden Depot yesterday, numberplate removed and sitting on dash for some reason...
I got on Bus 472 doing a route 30 to City this afternoon, departing Belconnen 4:40ish.
Is route 30 authorised for S'tags?
Apparently the shift is operated by a CNG bus normally.
I don't think it is...lol.
471 was reported as having that ominous puddle of transmission fluid under it yesterday, it won't be back for a few weeks
Quote from: Metrobus on January 24, 2012, 10:45:27 PM
471 was reported as having that ominous puddle of transmission fluid under it yesterday, it won't be back for a few weeks
471 was on road today, doing a northbound 312 around 3:45pm at Woden.
Cpnfirmed 486 in Woden Depot today.
Have had about 20 hours driving steer tags this week on intertown runs. Confirmed my earlier impressions of them ...Very satisfying driving; ample power; very responsive steering, door controls very effective, terrific AM-FM radios.
Negatives: Crowded cab (or 'cockpit' as they are referred to now), surprisingly noisy from driver's position, frustrating tendency for steering wheel to block-out sight lines to passenger stop lights, fan buttons & portions of the speedometer).
What about the woeful acceleration off the mark?? They make the MANs seem responsive off the line. Once you get them spooled up the 14.5s go OK, however in a drag up Barry Dr the MAN would almost be out of sight!
Quote from: Chris_Guru on February 04, 2012, 12:41:15 AM
What about the woeful acceleration off the mark?? They make the MANs seem responsive off the line. Once you get them spooled up the 14.5s go OK, however in a drag up Barry Dr the MAN would almost be out of sight!
Yes, agree on that score. MAN's are hard to beat on that score.
Since they only had 3 stags at Woden Depot today, I guess Bus 482 and 483 have gone to their depo(s) and remains 484-486 still at Woden.
Today there were only two of stags. One of them should've gone.
Bus 484 was one of the stag's left at Woden, you didn't happen to see the other fleet number did you Merv319?
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Fairly safe bet 485 is the one that's gone. Especially since it's now at B depot.
482 looks ready to enter service (as soon as ticketing equipment has been fitted).
Quote from: Bus 400 on February 16, 2012, 07:54:42 PM
you didn't happen to see the other fleet number did you Merv319?
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Not at all because I just had a quick look when I passed Athllon Dr.
Buses 487 & 488 arrived at Woden Depot this week. Only 1 more to go!
Based on the low-floor count on the ACTION website, 482 was in service at 29 February. Except it wasn't. It was back in the workshops yesterday, so there's a possibility it will be in service this week.
Quote from: ACTbusspotter on February 16, 2012, 08:04:45 PM
482 looks ready to enter service (as soon as ticketing equipment has been fitted).
One month on and it still hasn't. But
maybe next week.
482 has moved. Could be in service or out on a road test or sent off for repairs. Time will tell.
Tuggy Stags are currently rostered to do three shifts each weekday....
488 spotted on Haydon Dr on a road test But not in service
Quote from: smitho on March 24, 2012, 10:34:42 PM
Tuggy Stags are currently rostered to do three shifts each weekday....
Hang but their are way more than three tuggy weekeday shifts that have stags stamped on them, what do u mean?
At a guess I'd say he means three separate shifts per bus
There was only three 14.5s at T when the network started, there would more than likely be a very low number of shifts stamped 'STAG', I might be wrong but it is certainly quite possible that this is the case.
Quote from: Mayor McCheese on March 27, 2012, 10:43:39 PM
There was only three 14.5s at T when the network started, there would more than likely be a very low number of shifts stamped 'STAG', I might be wrong but it is certainly quite possible that this is the case.
Then let's figure out which shifts they are- I've confirmed shift 105 being STAGed.
Quote from: Buzz Killington on March 27, 2012, 06:59:04 PM
At a guess I'd say he means three separate shifts per bus
Yes, correct - in other words, each Stag is worked by three separate drivers on weekdays.
Are the roadworks that are being done at the Kippax bus stop specifically to make things easier for the 14.5m's? I gather they will come a more common site when the new timetable starts.
Quote from: ACTbusspotter on March 23, 2012, 01:50:07 PM
482 has moved. Could be in service or out on a road test or sent off for repairs. Time will tell.
Wherever it went (if anywhere), 482 is now back! But I will refrain from any speculation about how soon until it enters service.
482 has been released for service (B depot).
Update: 482 in service tonight on Blue Rapid routes.
484 (T) & 485 (B) are at their respective depots. So expect them in service next week, maybe.
489 arrived at W this week.
487 is at the back of Belconnen workshops.
485 & 486 both at B depot with number plates fitted. With 4 at workshops tonight (out of 10 vehicles), perhaps these 2 might see service this week.
Bus 484 was spotted in service on Monday morning by yours truly.
Bus 488 spotted in service this afternoon.
485 entered service at B depot
All remaining K320s expected in service for start of Network 12 (or sometime next week anyway). 487 is ready to go on Monday. Not sure about 486 or 489.
Mayor McCheese has reported seeing 489 in service this week. I've seen 486 & 487.
So that's it - all Scania K320s delivered and in service.
Stag involved in the peak period am accident on Tugg PWay mid week was one of the most recent deliveries to Tugg Depot (sorry, don't have number).
Quote from: smitho on June 02, 2012, 12:55:24 AM
Stag involved in the peak period am accident on Tugg PWay mid week was one of the most recent deliveries to Tugg Depot (sorry, don't have number).
That could be why I've heard Bus 488 is at the Belconnen Workshop.
Yeah, I gather there wasn't a huge amount of damage - car just bounced off the side of the bus a few times after first hitting some of those concrete things along the P'way...
Was on 486 this afternoon and the bus had a really strong new bus smell and was super clean. Quite surprising for a bus that is now over 1 year old, if I didn't know better I would have said it was max 1 month in service. Don't recall any of the other stags I've caught smelling that new. Mind you I have only got 2-3 of them. Any particular reason for it? Has this bus by any chance not been out on the road that much these past 12 months?
486 didn't enter service till the beginning of Network '12 in May...as with all the stags it has spent a considerable amount of time in the workshops...that probably explains it!
Had 484 on 2 x 318s this morning...a particularly good steer tag. Very responsive; manual retarder works well.
Have had 470s on other days this week...FAQ.
It would seem the 14.5's are being retrofitted with reversing cameras. 464 and 466 (at least) have so far been fitted.
Almost the entire B fleet were done last week
Quote from: The Love Guru on February 02, 2016, 09:22:28 PM
Almost the entire B fleet were done last week
I'm guessing you just mean B Steer Tags.
But it was nice of someone to report it last week though... ::)