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Title: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 26, 2009, 10:51:07 PM
With the Custom Coaches website noting that delivery of these vehicles commencing next month, seemed like a good time to start a thread to collate all the information, rumours and whatnot.

We've previously learned that these vehicles have been allocated a series of fleet numbers commencing at Bus 500.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on November 26, 2009, 10:53:01 PM
Do you by any chance mean 14.5m Scanias?
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 26, 2009, 11:01:19 PM
Whoops.. Can you tell I got up very early today!
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on November 26, 2009, 11:04:48 PM
Yeah, I am high on Coffee so that is what I will be like tomorrow because it will be a while before I sleep tonight.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on December 02, 2009, 01:23:35 PM
According to the December edition of Transit Australia, the first Scania 14.5 should be on the road by late January 2010. It reports that ACTION has ordered 24 Scania K 310UB Euro Vs - eight vehicles will be delivered per year over 3 years.

Looking at Scania's website though, the Euro V model may actually be K 320UB.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on December 02, 2009, 08:50:30 PM
awesome, I have heard that the first few will be stored at Woden until the Tennis court at Tuggies is removed.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on December 02, 2009, 08:57:18 PM
Quote from: Lemon on December 02, 2009, 08:50:30 PM
awesome, I have heard that the first few will be stored at Woden until the Tennis court at Tuggies is removed.

what?!?!
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on December 02, 2009, 09:14:49 PM
there is a tennis court at tuggy depot and they are removing it so that they can increase the capacity of the depot.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on December 02, 2009, 09:27:04 PM
I know there's a tennis court, I was expressing surprise that they would remove it.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on December 02, 2009, 09:47:16 PM
ah, okay then
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Irisbus Rider on December 02, 2009, 10:13:09 PM
Quote from: Martin on December 02, 2009, 01:23:35 PM
According to the December edition of Transit Australia, the first Scania 14.5 should be on the road by late January 2010. It reports that ACTION has ordered 24 Scania K 310UB Euro Vs - eight vehicles will be delivered per year over 3 years.

Looking at Scania's website though, the Euro V model may actually be K 320UB.
You're 100% correct there, here's a scan from 'ABCs Bus Directory 2009' re the Scania specs;(https://www.actbus.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi64.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh175%2FRJT-RR-GR%2FScaniaSpecs.jpg&hash=cd35e77c97e200b2955c6c56744e2f498faf0b2e)
Please mind the crappy scanner, but I hope it clears things up a bit.

Also, shame to hear about the tennis courts at Tuggies.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on January 16, 2010, 10:40:18 AM
First delivery may now be in February.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Busnerd on January 16, 2010, 11:24:39 AM
Thats stupid, how can they only deliver 8 buses to ACTION a year when CDC gets batches of like 30 14.5's in one go?
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Irisbus Rider on January 16, 2010, 01:02:39 PM
Because Volgren get their shite together. Plus, I'm sure there is a dedicated production line just for CDC, as there is one for STA at CC.

But, you do have a point, it isn't the first time bus deliveries have been delayed. Perhaps it's time for ACTION to stray away from CC?
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Busnerd on January 16, 2010, 02:24:05 PM
Well recently CDC has purchased quite a lot of CC scanias, again with next to no delay.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Irisbus Rider on January 16, 2010, 03:02:48 PM
Hmmm, interesting. I'm not sure, maybe ACTION isn't seen as a 'significant' client of CCs, very bad business management if that is the case. Mind you, this is all speculation.

On a sidenote, how many B7s will CDC be getting?
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: ajw373 on January 25, 2010, 05:42:52 PM
Did you guys ever stop and think that ACTION are getting 8 a year simply because that is how many ACTION have asked to be delivered per year?

I doubt very much it has anything to do with chassis supply or body building limitations.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: CNG on January 26, 2010, 07:28:15 PM
I was talking to a driver and he told me the delivery of the steertags had been delayed, due to a problem or issue relating to spare parts at the adelaide factory were the buses are being built and now the orders have been diverted to sydney factory. Custom Coaches not that reliable, hey. :'(
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on January 31, 2010, 11:23:45 PM
It has been sighted in Adelaide with the fleet number 464 not 500.
http://busaustralia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48308&start=50 (http://busaustralia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48308&start=50)

We should see it and 406-408 soon. All have been sighted on the road in Adelaide recently

They've been posting about ACTION buses for days
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Sir Pompously on February 01, 2010, 06:02:16 PM
Photo of a 14.5 is here http://actbus.net/forum/index.php?topic=2225.msg19792#new
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on February 01, 2010, 06:17:09 PM
Looks a bit odd, but I'm sure they'll be great to ride
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on February 15, 2010, 07:11:05 AM
Ed reports that Bus 464 has arrived at Tuggeranong depot.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on February 16, 2010, 06:57:00 PM
It seems that 464 will make a trip up to Sydney for repairs. The steering wheel will not lock into place when adjusted.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on February 17, 2010, 09:38:45 PM
Well, we're off to a good start then..  ::)
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on February 18, 2010, 11:06:28 AM
The contract for the 26 Scanias is on the ACT Government contract website (http://www.procurement.act.gov.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0013/112711/C09139_-_Scania_Draft_Agrgeement_-_Final_-_Confidential_Text.pdf).

The contract has 13 for delivery in 2010, 9 in 2011 and 4 in 2012.

Also note that the body specifications has McConnell Urban seats (bench style) rather than Centra seats, with a capacity of 53 seated and 48 standing.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Irisbus Rider on February 18, 2010, 08:09:18 PM
That's a real shame we're not getting our last 4 14.5m buses until 2012, which seems like such a long way away at this stage. It would be much better to get the in a clump. Who knows, by 2012, they should have the CB80 body (which was supposed to become the standard body for all CC orders after 2010/2011 IIRC from the CC tour).

Bench seats? That would mean they'll be the first bench seats in a new ACTION since 982 was delivered in 1993?!
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on February 19, 2010, 08:14:33 PM
464 is off to Sydney on Monday and it will return on Friday. Apparently the seating arrangement is very different to what we are used to.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: blackdragon on February 22, 2010, 09:42:15 PM
Quote from: King Long on January 31, 2010, 11:23:45 PM
It has been sighted in Adelaide with the fleet number 464 not 500.
http://busaustralia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48308&start=50 (http://busaustralia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=48308&start=50)

We should see it and 406-408 soon. All have been sighted on the road in Adelaide recently

They've been posting about ACTION buses for days

If you think about it, 464 is the perfect fleet number for the first 14.5m Scania..  the numbers add up to 14.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: CNG on February 23, 2010, 07:24:22 PM
Ha Ha, very funny
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on February 23, 2010, 07:42:59 PM
Well, somebody had a similar theory on why Redex was numbered 727 - because it runs from seven (am) to seven (pm)

Maybe we have a bit of a numbers geek at ACTION..
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: blackdragon on February 23, 2010, 10:10:01 PM
The image of the 14.5 in ACTION colours in the contract documents linked above is Bus 374, also adding to 14  ;)
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Irisbus Rider on February 24, 2010, 06:50:06 PM
Seems like a co-incidence to have 464 add up to 14, as that is just the next number from 463, which should be the last diesel MAN.

Still, that's quite hilarious, the fleet number of the first 14.5m bus adds up to 14!
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: The Love Guru on February 26, 2010, 11:56:03 PM
464 arrived back in Canberra and was parked in Belconnen depot this evening. Had a good look over it, looks nice inside and very different from anything we have here before.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on February 28, 2010, 12:08:22 PM
The Urban seats are narrower than the Centra seats, so this makes the aisle at the rear of the bus wider which can result in more room for standing passengers.

I wonder whether it is at Belconnen Depot to have a bike rack fitted?   :)
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on February 28, 2010, 12:39:19 PM
Quote from: Martin on February 28, 2010, 12:08:22 PM
....so this makes the aisle at the rear of the bus wider which can result in more room for standing passengers.

Could this be the same reason why it is "reported" to have 6 wheelchair spaces? As when those seats are flipped up many more people can stand.

Quote from: Martin on February 28, 2010, 12:08:22 PM
I wonder whether it is at Belconnen Depot to have a bike rack fitted?   :)

Couldn't you go by if a rear number plate is fitted?
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on March 01, 2010, 12:29:29 PM
It has only 2 wheelchair spaces. But it has 6 'bays' of fold-up seats mounted sideways - all before the centre door.

Quote from: Bus 400 on February 28, 2010, 12:39:19 PM
Couldn't you go by if a rear number plate is fitted?
The bus is not yet registered so it has no number plates - front or back.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on March 03, 2010, 07:36:35 PM
Going by the contract for these buses Bus 465 should be with ACTION by weeks end. With 1 more due in a fortnight & after March 2010, things will slow down a bit.

Also according to the contract there are 4 wheelchair spaces, 5 rear seats & 2 mother & child spaces. With the old ticketing machines in the new buses should stop around July 2010
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on March 03, 2010, 07:43:21 PM
Sounds about right. According to Martin's twitter 464 was in the body bay for repairs, 464 is yet to be allocated a depot as well.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on March 10, 2010, 07:20:27 AM
It seems they used 464 and 390 for something yesterday:
http://busaustralia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=49789 (http://busaustralia.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=49&t=49789)
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: CNG on March 10, 2010, 07:25:34 AM
what routes will 464 operate on, becase I want a ride
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Sir Pompously on March 10, 2010, 09:47:59 AM
You will have to wait until it is out and about to see what routes it would be on. It is like any bus, it could be on anything. However wild guess would be School Services, Red Ex (Because of the screen) and the Intertown. Just be patient, and your statement implies selfishness when you ask like that.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on March 10, 2010, 10:09:51 AM
But if it has no bike rack, then it can't be used on Redex or Intertown as those routes are designated Bike n Ride routes.

Anyway, as can be seen in the photos, 464 now has a ticket machine so in theory it should be ready to go into service. But, if 390 is anything to go by, it could be months before it gets some proper use.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: belcodriver on March 10, 2010, 11:32:21 AM
Quote from: Sir Pompously on March 10, 2010, 09:47:59 AM
You will have to wait until it is out and about to see what routes it would be on. It is like any bus, it could be on anything. However wild guess would be School Services, Red Ex (Because of the screen) and the Intertown. Just be patient, and your statement implies selfishness when you ask like that.

Rich kid = sense of entitlement.

Why don't you just get daddy to ring up his golf buddy Jon Stanhope and they'll have 464 come to your door and take you for a ride?
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on March 10, 2010, 09:21:13 PM
Quote from: Martin on March 10, 2010, 10:09:51 AM
Anyway, as can be seen in the photos, 464 now has a ticket machine so in theory it should be ready to go into service. But, if 390 is anything to go by, it could be months before it gets some proper use.

Also since it was for the Joint Transport Industry Dinner 2010, I would say that ACTION would of wanted these 2 buses to be seen what they would look like when in general use.

CNG, there is one chance coming up towards the end of March for you to ride Bus 464 with fellow bus enthusiasts.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on March 16, 2010, 07:44:53 PM
An interesting fact that I wasn't aware of is that this steer tag buses were first designed to get around the old, tight streets of Europe.

I wonder when the tech sheet will be available from the ACTION site.

Apparently these buses won't be assigned to shifts for a few more weeks, while more drivers are trained on them. With a few more due over the next little while.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on March 16, 2010, 10:15:53 PM
What do you mean more drivers? No drivers have trained on it yet.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on March 16, 2010, 10:22:26 PM
One driver is, how else could Bus 464 get to Civic Square? Also the trainers are drivers, so they need to be trained to train the other drivers.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on March 17, 2010, 01:23:22 PM
Launched was on WIN News last night; Chief Minister was interviewed and said that the artics would be phased out over the next 3 years while the steer tags were phased in.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: The Love Guru on March 17, 2010, 04:22:02 PM
Quote from: smitho on March 17, 2010, 01:23:22 PM
Launched was on WIN News last night; Chief Minister was interviewed and said that the artics would be phased out over the next 3 years while the steer tags were phased in.

That's a laugh. There is no way that the 14.5s even come close to replacing an artic. The total capacity of the bus is determined by tare weight being taken off the gross allowable weight and then a per pax allwonce.

Despite the claim they will hold 101 pax, there is no chance in hell of getting that many people onto it. Might work in asia where people are used to being squeezed and touching each other, it aint going to fly here. It is another half assed attempt by the stanhope govt to try and make out that they are wonderful for having these "cheap" buses. You pay for what you get, and in this case they have chose to replace artics that can genuinely hold 110 school kids with a bus that will be luck to get 85 on board.

I wish them the best luck with covering the artic school runs with these vehicles (also, route availability is going to be a major concern).
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: CNG on March 17, 2010, 04:52:44 PM
Like Redex with the man, they should only drive and use the steertags on the intertown run. As it is a busy and quite packed run and this bus would probably catter quite well for it. The artics should be keep't and dedicated to the school and expresso runs and the CNG's and irisbuses should be used on normal suburban runs aswell as the standards.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 17, 2010, 05:26:05 PM
Quote from: CNG on March 17, 2010, 04:52:44 PM
The artics should be kept and dedicated to the school and expresso runs

Agreed.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on March 21, 2010, 03:42:43 PM
Bus 465 is now on Tuggeranong Bricks
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 21, 2010, 08:13:50 PM
Quote from: Bus 400 on March 16, 2010, 07:44:53 PM
I wonder when the tech sheet will be available from the ACTION site.

The specifications are now available on ACT Bus: http://actbus.net/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=852&Itemid=69 (http://actbus.net/site/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=852&Itemid=69)
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on March 22, 2010, 10:46:39 AM
465 was on the Tuggy bricks this morning....
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on March 26, 2010, 11:19:02 PM
466 should be there (Martin's twitter feed)
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on April 20, 2010, 08:23:16 PM
Ed reports 467 is at Tuggy, both the others now have number plates.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on April 23, 2010, 09:02:18 PM
Saw 468 out at Woden Depot tonight & the front windscreen looks quite dirty, I wonder how that occurred.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on April 23, 2010, 11:01:01 PM
hmmm, gee I wonder if driving it half way across a desert had anything to do with it!!!
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on April 23, 2010, 11:05:06 PM
But then why didn't 400 (at least) arrive dirty?
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on April 23, 2010, 11:07:59 PM
it did! Every bus has arrived dirty!
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on April 23, 2010, 11:11:54 PM
Does this look dirty to you?
(https://www.actbus.net/forum/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi611.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ftt193%2FBus400%2FACTION-MAN%252018320%2FBUS400CohenStreetBusStation.jpg&hash=0f5d5d2c63b24ed9124f7665d776641fb5b9494f)
The delivery driver is bringing Bus 400 into Belconnen Depot & as such into ACTION possession for the first time.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on April 23, 2010, 11:14:47 PM
if you look at the front....
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on April 23, 2010, 11:17:43 PM
I don't have a picture of it arriving as when I saw her approaching I thought it was one of the others on normal routes. She wasn't as bad as 468, I'll try & grab a picture of 468 tomorrow as well as 417 & 418 & the other 2 MAN's at Woden.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: The Love Guru on April 24, 2010, 12:41:14 AM
If you did some quick research you'd know that there are currently locust plauges around in western NSW, and as such the front to bus would be covered in 1000s of grasshoppers.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on April 27, 2010, 06:48:41 PM
Ed reported that 464 was in service this morning. No route number but was a single digit (one would assume 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 as they are unable to operate 3s)
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: The Love Guru on April 27, 2010, 11:36:51 PM
Quote from: Stacka on April 27, 2010, 06:48:41 PM
Ed reported that 464 was in service this morning. No route number but was a single digit (one would assume 2, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8 or 9 as they are unable to operate 3s)

Not sure where you're getting your info from Zac but it is way off the mark. Route 3 is on the approved list that the depots have been provided, whilst routes 6 and 9 are not on the list.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on April 27, 2010, 11:46:43 PM
Would Route 9 not be on the list due to the RMC speed humps?
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on April 28, 2010, 12:46:43 PM
Route 9 would not be on the list because no-one catches it and a 100-person capacity bus might be a little much to carry 2 passengers.

Not sure if 4 or 8 are on the list either - for the same reason (will have to find that list again).
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on April 28, 2010, 02:14:03 PM
Saw 464 doing a southbound Route 5 on Goyder St, Narrabundah at around 0905 this morning.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on April 28, 2010, 08:20:07 PM
4 & 8 are approved routes. As are all Intertowns, Xpressos, Redex and a few others. No weekend or school routes are on the list.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bidgee on April 28, 2010, 08:58:02 PM
Quote from: Bus 400 on April 23, 2010, 11:17:43 PM
I don't have a picture of it arriving as when I saw her approaching I thought it was one of the others on normal routes. She wasn't as bad as 468, I'll try & grab a picture of 468 tomorrow as well as 417 & 418 & the other 2 MAN's at Woden.
I didn't know buses had a gender!  ::)
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on April 28, 2010, 10:03:30 PM
and been a MAN bus wouldn't it be a he?
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bidgee on April 28, 2010, 10:11:28 PM
Maybe the Irisbus is an transgender bus? :mono:

Hate to see a Scania and a MAN mating, as you would end up seeing a ScanMANia. ::) >:D
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on May 01, 2010, 01:02:21 PM
I'm interested to know: now that 464 is in service (with 465 to follow shortly), is it being used on services where the extra capacity is actually required? Has anyone been on it yet where passengers have been standing/all seats have been taken?
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on May 01, 2010, 01:19:08 PM
yesterday the 315 it was doing was pretty full, all seats were taken and there was some standers
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on May 02, 2010, 01:35:33 PM
I've been told 469 is at Woden.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on May 02, 2010, 04:45:59 PM
Steer tag driver training appears to have started at Tuggeranong although nothing formally announced yet about a training program...
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: CNG on May 03, 2010, 04:09:46 PM
The number 5 this am, packed to the rafters
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on May 03, 2010, 05:07:00 PM
It was on a southbound 315 to Tuggeranong that arrived around 1620 and another 315 north at about 1640.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: lukeo25 on May 03, 2010, 05:50:36 PM
Damn my working hours , but i'll keep an eye out for it :)
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on May 03, 2010, 07:17:51 PM
A fellow board member use to have a northbound Spence run in the previous shifts just 10 minutes before that. In a MAN CNG, it would be packed leaving the City (vaguely remember some passengers having to be left behind in the City due to loading). The passengers did thin out a little after leaving Belconnen Interchange (it was Belconnen Interchange back then). So going by that I would say the 14.5 is being put to good use.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on May 03, 2010, 07:46:42 PM
The 315 tonight was rather busy. Lots of standers, but that is what the bus was made for!
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: The Love Guru on May 03, 2010, 07:52:14 PM
Saying there are people standing isn't exactly an accurate reflection of the number of folks on board. After all, a .3 will seat just as many. I'm still waiting to hear that any driver has got 101 people on board LOL, and if it ever does happen (i actually believe it would be impossible if people wanted to breath and remain upright) i want to be the first one to take a photo, it would be hilarious.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on May 03, 2010, 08:10:54 PM
There would have been at least 15 people standing, in saying that there was also at least five spare seats at the back of the bus....
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: CNG on May 04, 2010, 07:56:22 AM
Quote from: Chris_Guru on May 03, 2010, 07:52:14 PM
Saying there are people standing isn't exactly an accurate reflection of the number of folks on board. After all, a .3 will seat just as many. I'm still waiting to hear that any driver has got 101 people on board LOL, and if it ever does happen (i actually believe it would be impossible if people wanted to breath and remain upright) i want to be the first one to take a photo, it would be hilarious.
Can a .3 fit the same number of persons as a steer tag.
Should make a steertag Irisbus agoraline, I wounder how that would work
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: The Love Guru on May 04, 2010, 09:24:08 AM
Quote from: CNG on May 04, 2010, 07:56:22 AM
Can a .3 fit the same number of persons as a steer tag.
Should make a steertag Irisbus agoraline, I wounder how that would work

To be honest, i don't think there is that much more capacity in the 14.5 due to its layout. Someone was trying to justify the purchase of them as an artic replacement so removed the seats to increase the number of pax that could fit onborad. In the front section of the bus they have calculated people standing 3 abreast, of course there are only 2 handles to hang onto, so i'm not sure what the piggy in the middle is supposed to hang on to.

These buses are the worst purchase ACTION have made. They are a great vehicle, but totally impractical for our use. They are suited only to the intertown runs, have major route restrictions and can't have a bike rack fitted. They will never replace the artics as they can't go to many schools due to route restrictions. I will have a guess that we'll see replacement artics evaluated in the very near future.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on May 05, 2010, 10:36:47 AM
And its only in use 5 hours a day, 5 days a week. How does that make economical sense? 
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Post by: geoffrah on May 05, 2010, 07:59:27 PM
So how is it that ACTION continues to make such woeful fleet choices ....... darts, irisbus, scania 14.5m ..... poor management, political intervention ...

I don't see any money on the horizon for new artics, and the majority of the present artic fleet are beyond 20 years old .....
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on May 05, 2010, 08:03:35 PM
Refurbishing the artics has been mentioned in the past. We may well see that occur, at least as a stop-gap solution.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Irisbus Rider on May 05, 2010, 10:09:38 PM
Absolutely, I agree the 14.5m buses are not appropriate for use at ACTION, a very ill-conceived plan.
Quote from: geoffrahI don't see any money on the horizon for new artics, and the majority of the present artic fleet are beyond 20 years old .....
It seems as though this problem is not just restricted to Canberra but is widespread throughout the country, Metro Tasmania are still operating artics from 1984, and the STA and Adelaide Metro go one better, with artics from 1983, but Transperth take the cake, still having artics in operation from the very early 80's, so it's more than likely ACTION will hold onto these for as long as possible, as in the scope of things, these are considerably 'young'.

It seems as though government operations who don't particularly want to purchase new artics simply use them as much as they can, and run them into the ground. This, in particular, is the method they have adopted at Metro Tas, they will continue to use them until government policy restrics them to keep doing so (30 y/o operation limit). Mind you, their artics (as well as the STA artics and others, I'm sure) have received a refurbishment, something which wouldn't go astray for our artics.

And, approx two years ago, IIRC, there was a budget allocation for artic refurbishment, did this occur (running gear only) or was it shelved?
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on May 05, 2010, 10:33:25 PM
Quote from: Irisbus Rider on May 05, 2010, 10:09:38 PM
but Transperth take the cake, still having artics in operation from the very early 80's, so it's more than likely ACTION will hold onto these for as long as possible, as in the scope of things, these are considerably 'young'.

The oldest Transperth artic entered service in August 1979. But it did receive an conversion in 1983 & 1993.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Sir Pompously on May 06, 2010, 12:27:51 AM
Quote from: Irisbus Rider on May 05, 2010, 10:09:38 PM
It seems as though government operations who don't particularly want to purchase new artics simply use them as much as they can, and run them into the ground. This, in particular, is the method they have adopted at Metro Tas, they will continue to use them until government policy restrics them to keep doing so (30 y/o operation limit). Mind you, their artics (as well as the STA artics and others, I'm sure) have received a refurbishment, something which wouldn't go astray for our artics.
Refurbishing the fleet in general wouldn't go astray! 100.3's, Irisbuses (You might aswell make them less crap and put a second door in, better yet just sell them to Tasmania), Artics and MkII Renaults all need a good makeover.

Artic's are needed to replace artics, there is no doubt about it. But it all comes down to costs. And what is seen as more cost effective in the short term certainly is not cost effective in the long term in the case of 14.5 vs. Artic.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: CNG on May 06, 2010, 07:26:00 AM
don't sell the iris's
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Sir Pompously on May 06, 2010, 10:47:06 AM
Good call, I see the mega list of reasons you have provided are enough to keep them in Canberra.

They are non standard ACTION vehicles, the cab is not ACTION spec, the fact that they do not have a centre door but are used on the Intertown is a big problem when loading/unloading. They are mechanically unfit, the amount of times I have been on a route where we have slipped into lateness because the bus was so slow, hearing that engine struggling. They are slow, jerky, they overheat in the summertime with a percentage more than any other ACTIOIN vehicle. You head past Belconnen Depot and see how many Irisbuses, by weekends end, are up by the workshops! When you get on a good Irisbus it can be great, but the majority are just horrible.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: CNG on May 06, 2010, 10:49:05 AM
I love the irisbuses, when Im an action driver expect to see me in the irisbuses or .3's
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on May 06, 2010, 06:22:42 PM
As much as you love them, they are the most unreliable, unsuitable pieces of crap that I've ever ridden on.

On another note, although I inspected it a few months back, I had my first trip on 464 today and they are certainly no replacement for artics, passenger wise. Take most of the seats out of the front of a L94UB or a Renault and you'll fit extra people in those too.

I found the seats quite comfortable, although I thought the engine sounded like a gruntier cross between an Iris and a L94UB.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on May 08, 2010, 11:36:05 AM
Another Scania 14.5 has been transferred to Woden, but this one is registered.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on May 08, 2010, 02:15:08 PM
That would be 465 - it has left B depot (for now?). Also can confirm 469 is at Woden.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on May 10, 2010, 02:56:10 PM
It looks like Bus 464 has broken down as it is empty on the side of Ginninderra Drive (near Kingsford Smith Drive).


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Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on May 10, 2010, 03:37:42 PM
LOL! whoops
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on May 11, 2010, 06:19:06 PM
Bus 464 is on a 314 in the City around 17:20 this week. Now there was quite a long line of people boarding this service at City Interchange, with it taking atleast 2 traffic light loops & people were still boarding (I suspect there might of been a boarding issue to take that long).
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on May 13, 2010, 06:00:04 PM
Bus 464's engine has clocked up 227 hours as of tonight.


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Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: King of Buses on May 18, 2010, 05:37:17 PM
My Dad's Regular 788 Bus Driver says that 14.5s cannot drive through suburbs at the moment due to something with the bus licences? If it's been on a 5 it confuses me
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on May 18, 2010, 05:40:41 PM
The 14.5's are only permitted on certain routes due to their size. Route 5 is presumably one of those routes.

Quote from: MyWay on April 28, 2010, 08:20:07 PM
4 & 8 are approved routes. As are all Intertowns, Xpressos, Redex and a few others. No weekend or school routes are on the list.

Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: p_stampy on May 25, 2010, 07:22:43 PM
Spotto'd 464 today, doing a 300 of some sort. It was leaving belco at 330pm.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on May 28, 2010, 01:12:39 PM
Bus 466 out on driver training today, has no ticket equipment yet.


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Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on June 19, 2010, 05:54:55 PM
Bus 470 has arrived at Woden Depot this week.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: blackdragon on June 19, 2010, 11:14:03 PM
http://www.legislation.act.gov.au/ni/2010-100/current/pdf/2010-100.pdf (http://www.legislation.act.gov.au/ni/2010-100/current/pdf/2010-100.pdf)

gives you a good idea where the 14.5 buses can travel in the ACT
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Sir Pompously on June 20, 2010, 08:34:28 PM
Wow, just looking in that PDF there are alot of major roads for major routes, that have restrictions during peak hours when the buses are most likely to be used. So can someone tell me the point of purchasing 14.5's again?
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on June 20, 2010, 09:20:11 PM
What about the fact that the buses can only leave Woden Depot during peak hours as all the exits at Belconnen & Tuggeranong Depot's can't be used during peak time.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Sir Pompously on June 20, 2010, 09:27:58 PM
I don't think they thought through this purchase very well..........
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on June 28, 2010, 06:25:14 PM
465 was in service today. Spotted doing a northbound 315 from Tuggy around 4.45pm.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on June 28, 2010, 07:21:12 PM
I saw it on that run too - it was on Melrose at around 1700. The next northbound intertown was a Mk1 on the 313, then 464 was on a 314.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on June 28, 2010, 10:06:43 PM
Other way around I think you will find, 464 entered the depot with 315 on the desto
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on June 29, 2010, 12:16:38 PM
While @ Belco Depot this am around 0740, saw 465 being prepared to do a 312...
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: blackdragon on June 29, 2010, 11:08:46 PM
It was doing a 312 (i think) about 0930 this morning spotted it southbound on Yarra Glen.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on July 01, 2010, 05:56:48 PM
Metrobus reports via Twitter that 466 has been moved to Belconnen.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on July 09, 2010, 12:48:36 PM
467 now at Belconnen
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on August 05, 2010, 05:43:09 PM
466 is in service.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on August 05, 2010, 05:45:34 PM
As reported first on my twitter feed. Picture coming later
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on August 05, 2010, 05:47:31 PM
Yeah, sorry. Saw your Tweet when I went to make one. I saw it heading north around 5:10.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on August 19, 2010, 05:58:16 PM
Buses 468 & 469 have left Woden.


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Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on August 19, 2010, 06:03:54 PM
I *think* I saw 467 in service, couldn't be sure though.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on August 19, 2010, 06:39:35 PM
Quote from: Bus 400 on August 19, 2010, 05:58:16 PM
Buses 468 & 469 have left Woden.


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468 has been at Belconnen for weeks, 469 is a new arrival, 467 doesn't have a validator
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on August 20, 2010, 07:32:42 PM
Bus 468 was at the back of Tuggeranong Workshop this afternoon.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on August 20, 2010, 07:48:06 PM
Oh?

This is an interesting development..
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on August 20, 2010, 08:01:51 PM
469 has left Belconnen I think.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on August 22, 2010, 05:40:40 PM
I wonder when we are going to see artic retirements. I know Bus 700 has a little bit longer after spotting the new ticket equipment brackets installed.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on August 22, 2010, 06:21:51 PM
That means nothing, most of the buses that have already been withdrawn had the equipment installed.

I wouldn't be expecting any artic withdrawls any time soon. The 14.5s are not a sufficient replacement for the artics and I think ACTION has recognised that. There are rumours that they are already looking at replacement artics.


Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on August 22, 2010, 06:56:59 PM
Hey, come on Lemon, you must mean RUMOURS don't you!!!? (or RUMORS in Yank speak).
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on August 22, 2010, 08:01:27 PM
My browser has an auto correct on it, I did try to spell it, but it corrected me.....
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on August 22, 2010, 08:19:41 PM
Oh well, these things happen.

I had 337 'Wilhelmina' out yesterday; nice to back in a Scania after nearly a month...going pretty well still.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: The Love Guru on August 22, 2010, 08:25:42 PM
Between Homo's Roomers and the numerous Sauces on here, i think i've seen enough to validate my thoughts on the current state of the education system.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on August 22, 2010, 08:26:31 PM
lol
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: blackdragon on August 22, 2010, 10:51:42 PM
Quote from: Metrobus on August 22, 2010, 06:21:51 PM
That means nothing, most of the buses that have already been withdrawn had the equipment installed.

I wouldn't be expecting any artic withdrawls any time soon. The 14.5s are not a sufficient replacement for the artics and I think ACTION has recognised that. There are rumours that they are already looking at replacement artics.

I believe they've been looking at some Mercedes artics
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on August 22, 2010, 11:16:50 PM
I dare say they will look at a few, possibly MAN and Scania, but as another board member has said, if they look at Volvos that is what they will buy because the B12BLEA is a superior vehicle to anything else in it's class
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on August 23, 2010, 12:32:00 PM
I wouldn't expect any artic withdrawals before the new network starts.

469 appears to have been transferred to Belco depot today.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Ed on August 23, 2010, 12:38:46 PM
I wish them good luck in getting the 14.5s approved for school runs because they'll need it.

Based on this alone, I doubt they'll withdraw any artics.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on August 23, 2010, 04:33:52 PM
But how are speaking about the steer tags being for the Intertown run maybe new attics are on the table for next budget.

Also this may be a coincidence, but a few years back & asked what the fleet numbers for the attic replacements was to be & I was told 500. Well the next available fleet numbers are 491+.


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Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on August 23, 2010, 05:58:53 PM
Quote from: Chris_Guru on August 22, 2010, 08:25:42 PM
Between Homo's Roomers and the numerous Sauces on here, i think i've seen enough to validate my thoughts on the current state of the education system.

:TODDLOL:
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on August 24, 2010, 11:43:29 AM
Bus 472 just arrived at Woden Depot.


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Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on August 31, 2010, 03:19:18 PM
Ed reports that 468 has entered service out of tuggy
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on August 31, 2010, 08:56:35 PM
Yeah, 468 was wandering around T Depot first thing this morning and again in the afternoon, but didn't see any evidence of it actually working revenue runs...
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on August 31, 2010, 09:45:50 PM
I got home and 468 (well I assume it was it, a 14.5 on a tuggies run, must be it) came past on the 313 following the one I came home on.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on September 01, 2010, 07:21:30 PM
468 was doing a northbound 318 at Torrens at around 0620 this morning, then observed dead running to T. Depot at around 1325 outside Woden Police Station.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on September 05, 2010, 08:47:52 PM
468 now parked in Road zero within the main garage/shed at Tuggeranong while 470 was parked out adjacent to "the bricks" this morning - roughly where the vintage bus used to be stabled. Haven't seen 470 on the road yet.

468 was in revenue service again on Friday - have only ever seen it doing intertowns.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: p_stampy on September 07, 2010, 08:45:26 AM
I spotto'd 468 Yesterday on an intertown :)
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on September 08, 2010, 02:17:03 PM
Caught 465 out of Civic today and sat in third row from back - surprised to hear how very noisy they are.

OK for gunzels but not for everyday commuters.

.... makes you wonder if the art of sound-proofing is being lost by modern-day coach builders.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on September 08, 2010, 03:09:54 PM
Ed reports 473 is here
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on September 08, 2010, 04:54:14 PM
467 is either in service or is about to be.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on September 09, 2010, 11:18:05 AM
470 now at Belconnen.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: King of Buses on September 13, 2010, 05:52:48 PM
Has anybody noticed about the logos on the scania K32's?
464 and 466 have them with the logo after the word
and 465,467,468,469,470 have it like the MAN's.

Not sure about the other ones at Woden
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: lukeo25 on September 14, 2010, 07:36:10 AM
468 is in service, just spotted it on a northbound 318 @ the skyplaza
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 14, 2010, 02:39:17 PM
Quote from: lukeo25 on September 14, 2010, 07:36:10 AM
468 is in service, just spotted it on a northbound 318 @ the skyplaza

It's been in service for two weeks.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: lukeo25 on September 14, 2010, 04:13:26 PM
*smacks head on wall* , nice to see a green bus without a ugly bike :)
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: The Love Guru on September 14, 2010, 08:15:25 PM
467 was sighted on a southbound 318 this afternoon
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: CNG on September 14, 2010, 09:58:41 PM
yeah I saw it today flying past.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: King of Buses on September 15, 2010, 05:12:57 PM
471 is at tuggy depot where the old heritage bus was (and 470)
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: King of Buses on September 16, 2010, 04:55:58 PM
471s disapeared
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on September 16, 2010, 08:21:40 PM
It's at Belconnen
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on September 18, 2010, 11:42:15 AM
Saw 471 on the road yesterday; looked like it was in revenue service.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on September 18, 2010, 12:02:07 PM
That could have been the 6th tag steer at the Raiders game.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on September 18, 2010, 03:32:56 PM
I'm 90% sure I saw 471 parked up the back of T Depot this morning
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: King of Buses on September 18, 2010, 03:57:36 PM
Quote from: Buzz Killington on September 18, 2010, 03:32:56 PM
I'm 90% sure I saw 471 parked up the back of T Depot this morning

It's at Tuggy
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on September 22, 2010, 07:55:32 AM
470 Looks ready with the exception of ticketing, which i assume will be myway
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: belcodriver on September 22, 2010, 11:17:30 AM
Quote from: Metrobus on September 22, 2010, 07:55:32 AM
470 Looks ready with the exception of ticketing, which i assume will be myway

I saw a mechanic driving it on Cameron Ave this morning.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on September 22, 2010, 11:37:35 AM
474 has arrived at Woden depot.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on September 22, 2010, 08:15:36 PM
471 was on the road today for Tuggy driver/mechanic training; still to be fully fitted up inside.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on October 03, 2010, 12:27:43 PM
There appears that. buses 469 & 470 could be at Tuggeranong Depot as Buses 472+ are still at Woden (with registration plates attached), Buses 468 & 471 are in there spots at Tuggeranong & I spotted what appeared to be 2 diesel buses with registration plates on the front.


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Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on October 05, 2010, 08:07:54 PM
Quote from: Bus 400 on October 03, 2010, 12:27:43 PM
There appears that. buses 469 & 470 could be at Tuggeranong Depot as Buses 472+ are still at Woden (with registration plates attached), Buses 468 & 471 are in there spots at Tuggeranong & I spotted what appeared to be 2 diesel buses with registration plates on the front.


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Yes, 470 was outside the workshops at around 1300 today; others inside.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on October 07, 2010, 10:50:44 AM
Spotted 470 in service today; 469 is still with Tuggy workshops; 471 unknown - possibly also in service.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on October 07, 2010, 11:00:43 AM
471 is being used for training.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on October 09, 2010, 08:03:34 AM
Yes, I was trained on 471 last month.

Title: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on October 09, 2010, 12:30:26 PM
471 has left its parking spot along the back fence at Tuggeranong. With 3 steer tags parked in Tuggeranong shed.


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Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on October 10, 2010, 09:05:06 PM
471 was parked at Belconnen Depot today, not far from 430 (rear of the "Front workshop").
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on October 14, 2010, 08:33:23 PM
470 was at B. Depot this am, then back at T. Depot this afternoon.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on October 15, 2010, 12:22:17 PM
469 just passed my house on a 313
Title: Scania 14.5s
Post by: Barry Drive on October 29, 2010, 10:11:20 PM
Bus400 reported seeing 471 in service today (via Twitter). I may have seen it out on Wed, but am not 100% sure.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on October 29, 2010, 10:38:14 PM
Ed reported it was having a few issues this afternoon.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: King of Buses on November 04, 2010, 05:05:46 PM
Bus 473 is where the old ZIB 050 was at Tuggeranong Depot
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: belcodriver on November 04, 2010, 08:29:44 PM
464 has been parked in the old fuel lane at Belco for a few days now with hatches open and a big pile of kitty litter underneath. Apparently the gearbox shat itself.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on November 04, 2010, 08:32:50 PM
Yeah, that was posted in the minor maintenance and repairs, they some how managed to tow it without ripping the arse out of it.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on November 04, 2010, 08:44:33 PM
Saw 472 entering Belco Depot on Tuesday morning being driven by a workshop person; 473 has appeared out in the open at Tuggeranong Depot in last day or so....as King of Buses reports, was parked on the south-western side of the workshops as at this morning. 
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on November 04, 2010, 08:46:59 PM
472-475 should all be Belconnen buses.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: King of Buses on November 05, 2010, 06:31:37 PM
Quote from: Metrobus on November 04, 2010, 08:46:59 PM
472-475 should all be Belconnen buses.

Why? ???
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on November 05, 2010, 08:09:44 PM
Quote from: King of Buses on November 05, 2010, 06:31:37 PM
Why? ???

That's where they were allocated.

Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on November 06, 2010, 12:48:42 PM
Quote from: Buzz Killington on November 05, 2010, 08:09:44 PM
That's where they were allocated.
According to whom/what?
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on November 17, 2010, 09:44:53 PM
Bus 473 was out on Driver Training this afternoon going along the intertown route through City Bus Station.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on December 01, 2010, 08:57:48 PM
Bus 473 out again today on Tuggeranong Depot driver training.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on December 11, 2010, 09:30:07 PM
Bus 474 has been transferred to Tuggeranong Depot.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on December 15, 2010, 02:22:15 PM
472 in service from T depot using MyWay only.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on January 18, 2011, 06:38:57 PM
476 spotted in Narrandera today according to ACT Bus Spotter on Twitter.

And for any of you who aren't following ACT Bus on Twitter yet, add us and get this info as it comes in! twitter.com/actbus
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Busnerd on January 18, 2011, 10:44:06 PM
ACT BUS Spotter? It was Norbert
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on January 19, 2011, 12:07:40 AM
Quote from: Buzz Killington on January 18, 2011, 06:38:57 PM
476 spotted in Narrandera today according to ACT Bus Spotter on Twitter.

Quote from: Busn00b on January 18, 2011, 10:44:06 PM
ACT BUS Spotter? It was Norbert

Does Norbert (ScaniaDriver) have an account on twitter? Norbert reported it on Facebook, I passed it on via twitter (and acknowledged it was Norbert who saw it).
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Busnerd on January 19, 2011, 06:19:35 PM
I doubt he even uses twitter
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on January 20, 2011, 05:57:22 PM
Quote from: Busn00b on January 18, 2011, 10:44:06 PM
ACT BUS Spotter? It was Norbert

I said ACT Bus Spotter reported it on Twitter. Didn't say that he was the one who spotted it.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: King of Buses on January 21, 2011, 06:46:14 PM
I'm pretty sure I saw 476 next to 475 at Woden Today around 11:30.
It's that or 474 is back at woden from Tuggers.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on January 21, 2011, 06:48:25 PM
Quote from: King of Buses on January 21, 2011, 06:46:14 PM
I'm pretty sure I saw 476 next to 475 at Woden Today around 11:30.
It's that or 474 is back at woden from Tuggers.
It's both.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on February 12, 2011, 02:42:53 PM
Bus 473 is finally released for service. Was available for Friday afternoon, but looks like it wasn't used. Expect to see it in service from B depot on Monday (14 feb).
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on February 20, 2011, 01:36:55 PM
Bus 477 arrived at Woden Depot this week.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on March 05, 2011, 07:28:07 PM
Bus 478 arrived at Woden Depot this week.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: King of Buses on March 14, 2011, 06:48:33 PM
Quote from: Bus 400 on March 05, 2011, 07:28:07 PM
Bus 478 arrived at Woden Depot this week.


Hooray! that brings ACTION's Total of #78 buses to 4
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: King of Buses on March 15, 2011, 02:39:32 PM
my favourite number is 78
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on April 28, 2011, 08:22:40 PM
474 looks like it entered service this week from B depot, although l haven't seen it on the road.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on May 22, 2011, 11:32:23 PM
The following steer tags were stabled at the northern end of the Tuggeranong garage this afternoon:-

468, 469, 470, 471 and 475.

Another steer tag was parked down amongst the Renaults...didn't take note of its number.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on May 22, 2011, 11:34:38 PM
Most likely 472 which has recently been at Belconnen for repairs. It appeared to have had a mirror pierced through it's RRHS corner.
Title: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on June 30, 2011, 11:04:29 AM
Buses 480 & 481 shouldn't be too far arriving as both have been spotted in recent photos from the Custom Coaches Adelaide Factory.

These photos can be found in the Adelaide/SA photo section of busaustralia.com/forum page. The posts have been made by member "The Inspector"
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: King of Buses on August 28, 2011, 04:23:01 PM
Bus 478 is now at Tuggeranong Depot.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on August 28, 2011, 05:00:33 PM
Was just about to report the same thing. Parked parallel to Athllon between the sheds and workshops.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on October 01, 2011, 04:57:38 PM
Bus 480 is parked at Tuggeranong Depot.

Is there any sightings of 479 at Belconnen?
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on October 02, 2011, 03:43:24 PM
480 transferred by Tuggy trainers from WTD to Tuggy Depot on Wednesday morning, 28 Sept 11.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Merv319 on October 28, 2011, 11:22:39 PM
Spotted 479 in a northbound Intertown yesterday, around 1:30pm at City.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on November 15, 2011, 02:12:26 PM
There was a very newish looking steer tag following me up Athllon Drive this morning...couldn't make out its number.

Would've made a good picture - I had 701 (nearly the oldest in the fleet) followed by one of the newest fleet members.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on December 08, 2011, 10:31:06 PM
480 was being kitted out in the Tuggy Quick Fix area earlier this week; understand it will join the Tuggy steer tag fleet.
Title: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on December 14, 2011, 04:47:24 PM
Bus 480 spotted in service this morning.
I've recently jumped off 480 & it's engine hours were 76 hours.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on December 17, 2011, 04:37:37 PM
Saw 484 out on the road about a week ago and it appeared to be in revenue service; however it was back in Woden Depot yesterday, numberplate removed and sitting on dash for some reason...
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Merv319 on January 24, 2012, 10:36:11 PM
I got on Bus 472 doing a route 30 to City this afternoon, departing Belconnen 4:40ish.
Is route 30 authorised for S'tags?

Apparently the shift is operated by a CNG bus normally.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on January 24, 2012, 10:45:27 PM
I don't think it is...lol.

471 was reported as having that ominous puddle of transmission fluid under it yesterday, it won't be back for a few weeks
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Merv319 on January 28, 2012, 12:06:27 AM
Quote from: Metrobus on January 24, 2012, 10:45:27 PM
471 was reported as having that ominous puddle of transmission fluid under it yesterday, it won't be back for a few weeks

471 was on road today, doing a northbound 312 around 3:45pm at Woden.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Merv319 on January 31, 2012, 07:54:21 PM
Cpnfirmed 486 in Woden Depot today.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on February 03, 2012, 10:25:03 PM
Have had about 20 hours driving steer tags this week on intertown runs. Confirmed my earlier impressions of them ...Very satisfying driving; ample power; very responsive steering, door controls very effective, terrific AM-FM radios.

Negatives: Crowded cab (or 'cockpit' as they are referred to now), surprisingly noisy from driver's position, frustrating tendency for steering wheel to block-out sight lines to passenger stop lights, fan buttons & portions of the speedometer).
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: The Love Guru on February 04, 2012, 12:41:15 AM
What about the woeful acceleration off the mark?? They make the MANs seem responsive off the line. Once you get them spooled up the 14.5s go OK, however in a drag up Barry Dr the MAN would almost be out of sight!
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on February 11, 2012, 11:35:03 PM
Quote from: Chris_Guru on February 04, 2012, 12:41:15 AM
What about the woeful acceleration off the mark?? They make the MANs seem responsive off the line. Once you get them spooled up the 14.5s go OK, however in a drag up Barry Dr the MAN would almost be out of sight!
Yes, agree on that score. MAN's are hard to beat on that score.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Merv319 on February 14, 2012, 09:20:44 PM
Since they only had 3 stags at Woden Depot today, I guess Bus 482 and 483 have gone to their depo(s) and remains 484-486 still at Woden.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Merv319 on February 16, 2012, 07:32:12 PM
Today there were only two of stags. One of them should've gone.
Title: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on February 16, 2012, 07:54:42 PM
Bus 484 was one of the stag's left at Woden, you didn't happen to see the other fleet number did you Merv319?


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Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on February 16, 2012, 08:04:45 PM
Fairly safe bet 485 is the one that's gone. Especially since it's now at B depot.

482 looks ready to enter service (as soon as ticketing equipment has been fitted).
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Merv319 on February 17, 2012, 11:40:29 PM
Quote from: Bus 400 on February 16, 2012, 07:54:42 PM
you didn't happen to see the other fleet number did you Merv319?
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Not at all because I just had a quick look when I passed Athllon Dr.
Title: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on February 29, 2012, 06:13:41 PM
Buses 487 & 488 arrived at Woden Depot this week. Only 1 more to go!
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on March 06, 2012, 03:21:10 PM
Based on the low-floor count on the ACTION website, 482 was in service at 29 February. Except it wasn't. It was back in the workshops yesterday, so there's a possibility it will be in service this week.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on March 17, 2012, 12:10:30 PM
Quote from: ACTbusspotter on February 16, 2012, 08:04:45 PM
482 looks ready to enter service (as soon as ticketing equipment has been fitted).
One month on and it still hasn't. But maybe next week.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on March 23, 2012, 01:50:07 PM
482 has moved. Could be in service or out on a road test or sent off for repairs. Time will tell.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on March 24, 2012, 10:34:42 PM
Tuggy Stags are currently rostered to do three shifts each weekday....
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: lukeo25 on March 27, 2012, 02:08:55 PM
488 spotted on Haydon Dr on a road test But not in service
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: CNG on March 27, 2012, 06:39:29 PM
Quote from: smitho on March 24, 2012, 10:34:42 PM
Tuggy Stags are currently rostered to do three shifts each weekday....

Hang but their are way more than three tuggy weekeday shifts that have stags stamped on them, what do u mean?
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Buzz Killington on March 27, 2012, 06:59:04 PM
At a guess I'd say he means three separate shifts per bus
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on March 27, 2012, 10:43:39 PM
There was only three 14.5s at T when the network started, there would more than likely be a very low number of shifts stamped 'STAG', I might be wrong but it is certainly quite possible that this is the case.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Merv319 on March 27, 2012, 11:21:21 PM
Quote from: Mayor McCheese on March 27, 2012, 10:43:39 PM
There was only three 14.5s at T when the network started, there would more than likely be a very low number of shifts stamped 'STAG', I might be wrong but it is certainly quite possible that this is the case.

Then let's figure out which shifts they are- I've confirmed shift 105 being STAGed.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on April 09, 2012, 04:37:40 AM
Quote from: Buzz Killington on March 27, 2012, 06:59:04 PM
At a guess I'd say he means three separate shifts per bus

Yes, correct - in other words, each Stag is worked by three separate drivers on weekdays.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: ajw373 on April 09, 2012, 07:38:45 AM
Are the roadworks that are being done at the Kippax bus stop specifically to make things easier for the 14.5m's? I gather they will come a more common site when the new timetable starts.
Title: Re: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on April 12, 2012, 10:18:20 PM
Quote from: ACTbusspotter on March 23, 2012, 01:50:07 PM
482 has moved. Could be in service or out on a road test or sent off for repairs. Time will tell.
Wherever it went (if anywhere), 482 is now back! But I will refrain from any speculation about how soon until it enters service.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on April 20, 2012, 04:08:38 PM
482 has been released for service (B depot).

Update: 482 in service tonight on Blue Rapid routes.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on April 28, 2012, 01:07:31 PM
484 (T) & 485 (B) are at their respective depots. So expect them in service next week, maybe.

489 arrived at W this week.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on May 01, 2012, 01:59:12 PM
487 is at the back of Belconnen workshops.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on May 09, 2012, 11:31:43 PM
485 & 486 both at B depot with number plates fitted. With 4 at workshops tonight (out of 10 vehicles), perhaps these 2 might see service this week.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on May 16, 2012, 08:25:07 PM
Bus 484 was spotted in service on Monday morning by yours truly.
Title: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on May 23, 2012, 06:04:24 PM
Bus 488 spotted in service this afternoon.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: The Love Guru on May 25, 2012, 07:37:56 AM
485 entered service at B depot
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on May 26, 2012, 08:49:39 PM
All remaining K320s expected in service for start of Network 12 (or sometime next week anyway). 487 is ready to go on Monday. Not sure about 486 or 489.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Barry Drive on May 30, 2012, 03:21:23 PM
Mayor McCheese has reported seeing 489 in service this week. I've seen 486 & 487.

So that's it - all Scania K320s delivered and in service.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on June 02, 2012, 12:55:24 AM
Stag involved in the peak period am accident on Tugg PWay mid week was one of the most recent deliveries to Tugg Depot (sorry, don't have number).
Title: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Bus 400 on June 02, 2012, 07:46:31 AM
Quote from: smitho on June 02, 2012, 12:55:24 AM
Stag involved in the peak period am accident on Tugg PWay mid week was one of the most recent deliveries to Tugg Depot (sorry, don't have number).

That could be why I've heard Bus 488 is at the Belconnen Workshop.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on June 02, 2012, 10:55:21 PM
Yeah, I gather there wasn't a huge amount of damage - car just bounced off the side of the bus a few times after first hitting some of those concrete things along the P'way...
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: ajw373 on January 07, 2013, 08:16:03 PM
Was on 486 this afternoon and the bus had a really strong new bus smell and was super clean. Quite surprising for a bus that is now over 1 year old, if I didn't know better I would have said it was max 1 month in service. Don't recall any of the other stags I've caught smelling that new. Mind you I have only got 2-3 of them. Any particular reason for it? Has this bus by any chance not been out on the road that much these past 12 months?
Title: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: Snorzac on January 07, 2013, 08:26:42 PM
486 didn't enter service till the beginning of Network '12 in May...as with all the stags it has spent a considerable amount of time in the workshops...that probably explains it!
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: smitho on January 09, 2013, 02:47:58 PM
Had 484 on 2 x 318s this morning...a particularly good steer tag. Very responsive; manual retarder works well.

Have had 470s on other days this week...FAQ.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: King of Buses on February 02, 2016, 06:39:14 PM
It would seem the 14.5's are being retrofitted with reversing cameras. 464 and 466 (at least) have so far been fitted.
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: The Love Guru on February 02, 2016, 09:22:28 PM
Almost the entire B fleet were done last week
Title: Re: Scania 14.5m Steer Tags
Post by: King of Buses on February 02, 2016, 09:39:33 PM
Quote from: The Love Guru on February 02, 2016, 09:22:28 PM
Almost the entire B fleet were done last week

I'm guessing you just mean B Steer Tags.
But it was nice of someone to report it last week though... ::)