Qantas A380's "Too Big' for LAX

[Buzz Killington]

THE giant Qantas Airbus A380 is too big for Los Angeles international airport.

As Qantas plunges billions on the aircraft, LA air traffic controllers warned that, without changes, they may have no choice but to turn away the world's biggest passenger planes.

America's National Air Traffic Controllers Association believes Los Angeles airport would be unable to accommodate the A380 if not for the recession-related slump in air traffic.

"It is pretty inconvenient moving that Airbus around the airport," the association's LA tower president Mike Foote said yesterday.

"There are restrictions that apply to that aircraft that don't apply to others."

Its enormous wingspan was too broad for the existing runway and each time an A380 landed, all ground traffic on the tarmac had to be brought to a standstill, he said.

"They are 50ft (16m) wider than any other aircraft we have so it causes all sorts of problems," Mr Foote said.

The aircraft, which has been flying to LA from Melbourne and Sydney since October, carries between 450 and 853 passengers over two levels and has room for 50 per cent more cargo than most other planes.

Its wings measure about 80m from tip to tip, the tail is 24m tall and its maximum take-off weight is 544 tonnes.

That compares with a Boeing 747, the tail of which measures 20m and wingspan 64m.

Australia's national carrier has invested heavily in the A380, with plans to have seven in the air by the end of this year and a fleet of 20 in operation by 2013.

Now Qantas has three in the air - two flying to Los Angeles from Melbourne and Sydney and a third A380 covering the London route. They cost about $350 million each.

The A380 Qantas route had "worked well to date" but the airline was hustling to improve infrastructure at LA, a Qantas spokesman said.

"The city has always been fully aware of our requirements and of the economic benefits our A380 operations bring," said the spokesman.

"Airports need to be able to handle these larger aircraft and we are working with the airport to develop longer-term infrastructure improvement options."

Qantas is the only airline running A380s at LAX, Mr Foote said.

It runs six flights from Melbourne and Sydney a week, three from each city.

Mr Foote said, even if there were four or five A380 flights into the airport each day, the operation would crumble and flights across the airport would face chronic delays.

"Because of the recession, the traffic has gone down somewhat but at pre-recession traffic levels it would be almost impossible to move around the airport," he said.

The association is pressing for a new, bigger runway on the other side of the airport.

Average daily landings and departures at LA airport have dropped 1000 to 1500 since 2000 amid fuel price rises, terrorism fears and the economic downturn.


http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,25128459-5013605,00.html

[Snorzac]

All I have to say is that the yanks should stop whining!

[Bus 400]

America always hate European planes-that is why the Concorde went (I know about the crashes). I wonder what there thoughts will be when the Boeing 777 begins operation.....

[Snorzac]

V Aus began over the weekend, Saturday I believe.

[Bus 400]

How could you of missed that.

I meant that "Dreamliner" which I thought was the 777 but have been mistaken. Which is as big (if not bigger) then the Airbus.

[Snorzac]

The dreamliner (787) is the same as the A330-200, Airbus are making a new line to compete, A350X.

Boeing may have a rival for the A380 on the drawing board which may be the 797. The 747-8 is the current competitor for the A380

Dreamliner-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_787
A350-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Airbus_A350
Super Jumbo-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A380
777-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_777
797-http://www.aviationexplorer.com/boeing_797_aircraft_facts.html
747-8-http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/747-8

These may help